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In robberies, Milwaukee's Chief Hegerty said, "even after the person gives up, the guy with the gun shoots him anyway. We didn't have as much of that before."

A large part of the problem, the police say, is simply more guns on the streets as gun laws have loosened around the country. In Philadelphia, Commissioner Johnson said, since the state made it easier to get a gun permit in 1985, the number of people authorized to carry a gun in the city has risen from 700 to 32,000.

How many of those were involved in murders, the NY Times doesn't say.


1 posted on 02/12/2006 3:45:31 PM PST by neverdem
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In robberies, Milwaukee's Chief Hegerty said, "even after the person gives up, the guy with the gun shoots him anyway. We didn't have as much of that before."

That's definately a reason to disarm America. All those robbers walking around with gun permits have to be stopped.

32 posted on 02/12/2006 5:32:51 PM PST by raybbr (ANWR is a barren, frozen wasteland - like the mind of a democrat!)
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Suspects tell the police they killed someone who "disrespected" them or a
family member, or someone who was "mean mugging" them, which the police
loosely translate as giving a dirty look. And more weapons are on
the streets, giving people a way to act on their anger.

Hmmmm...what do I get the distinct impression this is ALL black on black crime?

37 posted on 02/12/2006 7:38:36 PM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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Suspects tell the police they killed someone who "disrespected" them

Those church going Pubbies got to learn to chill.

40 posted on 02/12/2006 8:33:27 PM PST by razorback-bert
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How do you "mistakenly use" dish soap? "Oh, excuse me, I didn't realize that a) I was in your house instead of mine and b) using your dish soap instead of Mom's."


43 posted on 02/13/2006 12:56:57 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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"even after the person gives up, the guy with the gun shoots him anyway

That is the best reason ever to carry a gun with you at all times once you leave your house.Whether or not the local city you reside in grants you "permission" to exercise your constitutional RIGHT to carrry a gun. All unarmed citizens are at the mercy of anyone with a gun knife or bat and if you are more concerned with obeying some local law thne you are with ensuring the safety of you or your family either you or your family members may be killed and it will be very small conselation to have "i obeyed all the unconstitutional laws of my city like a good little slave" etched into your tombstone.

hopefully with the two new justices on the supreme court we have a shot at gettingh the 34 and 68 gun control laws tossed out but i dont know enough about them yet to know how they will vote we will probably see in the next two or three months if they are literate enough to rule on the 2cd amendment the right way

46 posted on 02/15/2006 11:54:05 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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47 posted on 02/15/2006 11:54:42 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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A large part of the problem, the police say, is simply more guns on the streets as gun laws have loosened around the country. In Philadelphia, Commissioner Johnson said, since the state made it easier to get a gun permit in 1985, the number of people authorized to carry a gun in the city has risen from 700 to 32,000.
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Yes, but murders and crimes have dropped drastically from 1985 to the present. Therefore, the NY times statement, attempting to link gun laws with increases is 180 degrees from reality, if one was to correlate the two statistics.


48 posted on 02/15/2006 1:21:59 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/israel_palestine_conflict.htm)
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One woman here killed a friend after they argued over a brown silk dress. A man killed a neighbor whose 10-year-old son had mistakenly used his dish soap. Two men argued over a cellphone, and pulling out their guns, the police say, killed a 13-year-old girl in the crossfire.
They were all askin' for it.
49 posted on 02/24/2006 10:45:16 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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