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The Heartland Dissident (NYT Magazine Lionizes Chuck Hagel; Suggests Him for 2008 GOP Nominee)
New York Times ^ | February 12, 2006 | JOSEPH LELYVELD

Posted on 02/12/2006 2:05:07 PM PST by nickcarraway

With a bluntness that seems habitual — and more than occasionally strikes fellow Republicans as disloyal — Senator Chuck Hagel started voicing skepticism about the Bush administration's fixation on Iraq as a place to fight the Global War on Terror more than half a year before the president gave the go-ahead for the assault. What the senator said in public was milder than what he said in private conversations with foreign-policy gurus like Brent Scowcroft, the national security adviser in another Bush administration, or his friend Colin Powell, the secretary of state, who thought he still had a chance to steer the administration on a diplomatic course. The Nebraskan wanted to believe Powell but, deep down, felt the White House wasn't going to be diverted from its drive to topple Saddam Hussein. When he rose on the Senate floor that October to explain his vote in favor of the resolution authorizing force — he'd persuaded himself that his vote might strengthen Powell's hand — he gave a speech that would have required no editing had he decided to vote against it. What sounded then to the venture's true believers like the scolding of a Cassandra sounds fairly obvious three and a half years later, which is to say that Hagel's words can reasonably be read as prescient: "How many of us really know and understand Iraq, its country, history, people and role in the Arab world?. . .The American people must be told of the long-term commitment, risk and cost of this undertaking. We should not be seduced by the expectations of dancing in the streets." The president had said "precious little" about post-Saddam Iraq, which could prove costly, Hagel warned, "in both American blood and treasure."

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Nebraska
KEYWORDS: 109th; hagel; hagel2008
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N.B.: Joe Lelyveld, who wrote this 8000-word article, was the former executive editor of the NYT.
1 posted on 02/12/2006 2:05:09 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

If the NYT loves Hagel so much, why don't they suggest him for the 2008 Democrat nominee?


2 posted on 02/12/2006 2:07:42 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: nickcarraway

YEAH, Like Republicans are going to listen to the DNC NY Times. As if Hagel's mouth had not all ready written his political Obit, this is the kiss of death.


3 posted on 02/12/2006 2:09:31 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Conservatives...lack sufficient cynicism to properly assess the nature of their liberal opponents)
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To: nickcarraway

Yeah sure NY Times. Anything else we can do for you?


4 posted on 02/12/2006 2:11:21 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: nickcarraway
8000 words and Hagel still won't get over one per cent in any poll or primary.

The power of the ole dinosaur media on display.

5 posted on 02/12/2006 2:11:43 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: nickcarraway

A snowballs chance in Hell comes to mind.


6 posted on 02/12/2006 2:12:52 PM PST by conservativecorner
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To: nickcarraway

I plan to vote against him in the primary for Senate. There are plenty of folks in this neck of the woods who think he needs to STFU...He'll never get the Nomination...


7 posted on 02/12/2006 2:17:50 PM PST by conservativehusker (GO BIG RED!!!!)
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To: nickcarraway

Thanks NYT, but no thanks! You have entered the "NO RINO" zone.


8 posted on 02/12/2006 2:19:06 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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To: mainepatsfan
Hear the news. Dick Cheney invited Sen Hagel to go hunting with him next weekend to discuss the Senators future in the Republican party.

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Yes, I made it up but we all secretly wish the VP would do it

9 posted on 02/12/2006 2:20:10 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Conservatives...lack sufficient cynicism to properly assess the nature of their liberal opponents)
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To: nickcarraway
"Senator Chuck Hagel started voicing skepticism about the Bush administration's fixation on Iraq as a place to fight the Global War on Terror more than half a year before the president gave the go-ahead for the assault."

A correction is required here. "Senator Chuck Hagel got the memo with the talking points about how to oppose President Bush's policies, no matter what they are, because they have nothing else to offer themselves"

You're welcome, Mr. Lelyveld.

10 posted on 02/12/2006 2:20:50 PM PST by Theresawithanh (Always remember that you're unique. Just like everyone else.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Hagel Season.


11 posted on 02/12/2006 2:25:10 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: nickcarraway

Right about now Hagar Hagel has got to be thinking: "Awwwww, geeze,... la embrazza de muerta to my plans!"


12 posted on 02/12/2006 2:29:03 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: nickcarraway

Hagel will never get the nomination.


13 posted on 02/12/2006 2:30:58 PM PST by Rocko (Liberals -- they have a compassion you always hear about, but never witness.)
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To: SandRat

Maybe it's just cover for McCain.


14 posted on 02/12/2006 2:31:18 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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This is in the finest traditions of the New York Times, didn't they endorse Gus Hall of the old CPUSA, and Henry Wallace back in FDR's day? Now Hagel might not be a Commie, but after this endorsement, he is definitely TOAST.

Not that he wasn't before.


15 posted on 02/12/2006 2:32:05 PM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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Rabbit Season.

Hagel Season.

16 posted on 02/12/2006 2:32:15 PM PST by Rocko (Liberals -- they have a compassion you always hear about, but never witness.)
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To: mkjessup
he is definitely TOAST.

French Toast.

17 posted on 02/12/2006 2:33:01 PM PST by Rocko (Liberals -- they have a compassion you always hear about, but never witness.)
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To: nickcarraway
Oh,..... you mean this guy?


18 posted on 02/12/2006 2:34:16 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: nickcarraway
What ironic is the New York Times will never lionize his Democratic Nebraskan colleague Ben Nelson. Nelson is a good deal more conservative than Hagel and in the eyes of the NYT that is a problem.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

19 posted on 02/12/2006 2:36:01 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Rocko

I was living in Ne when he first ran for the senate. He blew in from the beltway with a well-financed media campaign. I am not sure who he really represents, but the people of NE deserve better.


20 posted on 02/12/2006 2:39:55 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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