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therapeutic Cloning, now doesn't that sound just real nice, you clone to help the ill.  But what's behind the phrase "therapeutic cloning"?  Barbarism, that's what's behind it.  It's really called Somatic Cell Nuclear Transfer otherwise known as FETAL FARMING.  The way I understand it is this:  They get a donor egg and take out its nucleus and the nucleus from the cell of another person is inserted, then a small electric current is applied to the cell and an embryo/new baby is formed.   That's right, they clone a human, grow the baby in a surrogate mother while the baby is nourished and grows to 9 months of gestation.  Then the baby is killed  and is taken apart, piece by piece for its kidneys, liver, heart, corneas, cells, etc.  Sounds gruesome? It will never happen?  Well, it's in the laws in the state of NJ and CA.  Once the technology is available, it's already approved law.   Some nation we turned out to be.

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1 posted on 02/11/2006 4:56:58 PM PST by Coleus
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2 posted on 02/11/2006 4:57:16 PM PST by Coleus (IMHO, The IVF procedure is immoral & kills many embryos/children and should be outlawed)
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To: Coleus

I think that, if a state/country allows this research, it makes no sense for purchasing eggs to be illegal


5 posted on 02/11/2006 5:03:33 PM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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No. But they will. Men get paid for sperm.


7 posted on 02/11/2006 5:11:31 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Coleus
With one hand, Big Pharma is patenting every part of the human genome its lawyers can get their mitts on; with the other, it hides behind a mask of moral high-mindedness when it comes to paying people for medical products from human donors.

Many of my fellow old-timers will remember when "blood bank" was NOT just an expression - these places functioned like actual banks. The blood you gave was accounted for, and if you needed surgical blood years later, you got credit for units you had donated. You could also sign over units to relatives and friends to mitigate their medical bills. No longer: no matter how much blood you donate, you get gouged for every unit you use.

12 posted on 02/11/2006 5:23:19 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: Coleus
People that mess with the sanctity of innocent life certainly must have no comprehension of the evil they are dealing with, or they wouldn't mess around with it.

There is a great and Holy Recorder of this world's affairs, and not one nanosecond goes without record.
16 posted on 02/11/2006 5:37:10 PM PST by DoNotDivide (Romans 12:21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.)
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To: Coleus
>>>Advanced Cell Technology, which in the past paid women $4,000 for time

Sheesh, in NY/NJ they offer $7,000.




Ya know, I would really be worried about conditions where women are being recommended hysterectomies now. Is the recommendation for harvesting???
18 posted on 02/11/2006 5:52:13 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Coleus

If it saves me or one of my loved ones from death or disability, it's fine by me.


21 posted on 02/11/2006 6:41:27 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Allan

fyi


22 posted on 02/11/2006 7:16:09 PM PST by ARridgerunner
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To: Coleus
I'd say you understand it pretty well ... except the new human being is fair game from embryo age to nine months of gestation, not the full term of course because that would be farming 'babies'. You see, the flaw in the leftist dissembling is in the dehumanization of the newly alive human being; embryo is an age all of us reading this script went through in our individual lifetime, thus the dehumanization of the earliest ages must be slipped past the public's understanding in this debate in order to hide the cannibalism of the clone and kill technology.

Note the following: "That may change. Our ethics advisory board and our historical practice have allowed us to pay woman for pain and suffering, as well as lost wages, as well as child care." Child care?! What about the child newly alive in the somatic cell nuclear transfer? [And being alive in a petri dish doesn't mean the new human isn't differentiating cells for his or her survival, because the petri-dish-being must task some cells to build the organs (plac4enta and umbilicus) for survival in the water world of the uterus --or artificial womb; they're already working feverishly on that environ, with an artificial womb already able to keep a goat fetus alive for at least seventeen weeks-- beginning as early as the 16 cell stage!] Care? Harvest it! Care for older humans by cannibalizing youngest humans, THAT'S what this is all about, though the BM (big media) will never tell that truth and risk the American people rejecting the agenda.

28 posted on 02/11/2006 10:53:33 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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