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To: A CA Guy; NormsRevenge; Amerigomag; FOG724; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; Czar; Prime Choice; dalereed; ..
Right now no borrowing is needed and to be honest, property taxes for a while will be bringing lots of cash...

Right now, the state is projecting deficit spending indefinitely into the future which has been fueled by borrowing. This only furthers big government and socialism.

We do have 20 year road bonds in the billions that will pass that will go for future roads we will need. That debt is for an actual purpose that is traditional.

Apparently the majority of the Republican legislators currently disagree with you. Time will tell what is being offered after everyone is finished their Christmas list to the legislation.

Passion and religion are two areas where common sense can get thrown out the window.

What you call "passion" is the common sense reaction of those wanting to keep their freedom by demanding smaller accountable government and protecting Property Rights and 2nd Amendment Rights. Your position is simply totally unacceptable to most Republicans and all conservatives:

Properly rights will be upheld even with Democrats in the legislature because even the Democrat voters will hand them a new one if they try and take private property left and right.

Some gun control is good, mostly automatic weapons and such...

...but the people of the state like occasional restrictions or things like putting serial numbers on bullets and registering all bullets in a state data base to check against future crimes.

With this platform, combined with your suggested approach of just getting a "little bit dirty" and using more government spending to lure the brainwashed socialists into the party, I predict that there will be a lot more "protests" in the future.

P.S. I didn't vote for Perot, and I have never voted for a Dem or third party, but if Republicans continue down the same path leftward, I will most certainly consider it in the future.

61 posted on 02/13/2006 1:09:52 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl; A CA Guy
"With this platform, combined with your suggested approach of just getting a "little bit dirty" and using more government spending to lure the brainwashed socialists into the party, I predict that there will be a lot more "protests" in the future."

There sure will be.

I take it A CA Guy is not a conservative.

62 posted on 02/13/2006 2:05:48 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: calcowgirl
Bonds for roads has been the one reason in history we did do bonds. Another would be to build a school and so on.

We have needs in 20 years from now with roads that includes keeping in good shape what we have and expanding where roads go.
We need the roads.

Just like the Feds found we have a surplus, the State should also find a good surplus with all the new property tax income coming in.
I would hope some propositions would go out there to restrict spending and to some day open up off budget things that get automatically funded.
We also need to have public employees and unions get no more than the average wage and benefits for their jobs, not 50% overpaid on our tax dollars.
I believe in property rights and what I said is that even if with the Democrats in office, once some places try and confiscate private property and some of it makes the news, there will be new laws forbidding it on the state level. The people won't stand for that and even liberals won't stand for that.
I was also accurate, outside of the military, who needs fully automatic weapons?
I did hear California is going to register rounds of bullets by serial number in the future to connect the buyer with any crimes if the future. That is coming as a political issue from what I hear and read.
I like a well armed Californian citizen for safety. I'm just not out of my head standing up for automatic weapons and military grade weapons in the hands of the general public.

The Republicans have to run to the left of what they like to do at least slightly in CA on social issues. Unless you have some superstar running, the people won't go at this time for the full conservative. I don' think the majority of CA voters are that responsible.
66 posted on 02/13/2006 5:08:54 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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