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A CA Guy, I've asked you specific questions several times and you seem to avoid them therefore it is almost impossible to have any kind of meaningful dialogue.

You seem to think that we can continue down the current path with a "typical approach" (whatever that means) and accept "just a little" socialism to bribe the welfare class into voting Republican. All of this without identifying a party platform or the principles on what that Republican party might stand for.

I disagree. I have read plenty of evidence that says conservatives can and do win. History from California and experience in other states say it can be done--and it doesn't mean that we need to tilt left. It means we need to define our platform and sell it! I do suggest you read some more history. The "we must win first" approach has been tried and failed--repeatedly.

Right now, I am hard pressed to explain to anyone why the Republican party is backing a big-spending, big-borrowing (read: taxes!), gun-grabbing, pro-GLBT, land-grabbing Governor who is forcing taxpayer/ratepayer subsidies of hydrogen highways, stemcell research, solar roofs, Global Warming, has appointed liberals statewide into key positions that will succeed his time in office, and made a huge number of liberal judicial appointments. The platform of the Republican Party was against ALL of these things. To say that this is somehow "small steps" in the right direction is just nonsensical. I am NOT looking for perfection in a candidate. I would be quite happy right now with someone who supported 75% or more of the Republican platform.

Well the facts are that we are in a crudy position.

The CRP has done so little well for so long that they've dug a hole practically neck deep.

I have no argument with you or anyone else in wanting a nice conservative outcome in this state and this country.

The simple reason that Arnold is there and will be unchallenged perhaps on the Republican side is because they figure he would win a Republican primary and should use the money better in another race to remove the Democrat.

Gov. A is NO FRIEND of the Unions and the Legislature in the state. Only the absence of conservative voters has compromised his promise to blow up boxes in CA.

The history that repeats itself is strong willed conservatives or Christians with limited long term vision going on a quest over so called principles that always ends up kicking conservatives in the nuts and getting the Communist Democrat elected to office.

We are in occupied area and if things get bad enough, the voters occasional throw us the bone of a somewhat conservative Governor if all hell is about to break lose in the state.

When was the last year and decade that California voted for the Republican for President? That was the turning point where things got worse in the state and the CRP got caught unprepared.

Now we have to get the voters the more left than we would like and then we have to move the voters center and then right.
Takes time and there is no way you are going to see a conservative voting California until we stop sabotaging the Republican party with religious and political principles.

If you want to only accept a pure victory with only the best people, we should win about one out of every 15 elections.