[A CA Guy]

Well the point I was making was most of these voters are bribed children who either get benefits or high paying government make-work jobs.
That is tough to overcome. You can dream some conservative speech can slide them right, but it won't.

We are dealing with corrupted voters and have to go get dirty, do some of the same Democrat things and then make them go through a withdrawal and slide their politics to the right.

If we flash our conservative character to bribed people Amerigomag, then most of those voters will be turned off. Few like to hear a tough message about being self reliant and working hard.
So IMO we have to go a bit dirty and slide slowly those voters to a place more right of where they are where they will be willing to listen to a conservative message.

There might be some opportunity that could let us make the voters go right sooner, like unions bankrupting the state and more private companies.

[Amerigomag]

I understand your point and don't disagree with it. The reason for my counterpoint was not to challenge its validity but to point out that it's in a different universe than mine.

I am a political ideologue, not a political partisan. I don't care who wins and who loses in an election as long as the voice of conservatism is not silenced. If that voice is silenced and I choose not to move on, I'll follow the advice of partisans, not with a bag of dirty tricks, but with a weapon, on the barricades, looking for partisans who forgot their conservative principles.