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To: Amerigomag
Here, however, is where we part company on issues:

1) Any change must be in the desired direction. Sponsoring liberals will never advance conservatism.

2) Supporting a party that corrupts the political process will not advance the cause of conservatism.

3) Spreading a myth that a principled politician can't evoke public loyalty across a broad political landscape is at best counterproductive and at worst a cancer that promotes self defeat.

If the CRP persist in advancing liberalism then maybe their usefulness to California has ended and they deserve to expire, replaced by a party(?) that will advance conservatism.

What I think keeps flying past some people here is that we are in a real war of sorts here.
You don't have your soldiers play by one set of rules while the other foe fights dirty. We have Democrats who for decades have bought the vote and embedded employment in government that is directly associated with voting Democrat in this state.

The biggest problem with the Republican/Conservative direction for this state's current crop of voters is it is about self-reliance and responsibility. That is a hard sell in a state where many voters vote with their hands out from politicians.

Republicans need to embed themselves in the fight and then slowly drag the voters back to the right.
If we keep taking ourselves out of the fight by being 100% conservative before the voters are ready, then more decades of setbacks will continue for conservatism in CA.
Smaller steps from a more left tilt that drags the voters more and more right will be the only successful strategy to change this state. You can't do any protests against Republicans that will change the voters habits. You are punishing the Republicans needlessly if they have to go left to get the vote at this time. I'd rather they do that then get the Abortion Loving Communist in office this year.

We need to build our base from new and younger voters, then we need to drag what we can from our current voters to the right.
We need to stop backstabbing the Republican party in enemy dominant states. That strategy for decades now hasn't worked and we need grow a long term memory regarding that issue about how we fail repeating that behavior against the CRP. We have to some day stop repeating our mistakes in the name of conservatism. We should be smarter that that IMO.

24 posted on 02/11/2006 11:20:40 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
The biggest problem with the Republican/Conservative direction for this state's current crop of voters is it is about self-reliance and responsibility.

Yes, that old self reliance character flaw is a real problem for the CRP to overcome. Perhaps the CRP could employ Zyklon at central committee meetings, suggesting that conservatives avail themselves of a free shower before the meeting starts. The public-private partnerships could set up little tables at the meeting and sell soylent green cookies to go along with the free Kool Aid that Sundheim and Kingsley already host.

27 posted on 02/12/2006 7:58:41 AM PST by Amerigomag
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