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Dallas school trustee Joe May dies (Dallas,TX official that proposed hiring illegals last week)
Dallas Morning News ^ | 02/12/2006 | TAWNELL D. HOBBS

Posted on 02/11/2006 7:35:54 AM PST by devane617

Dallas school trustee Joe May, who last week made a controversial proposal that the district look into hiring illegal immigrants, has died. Joe May Mr. May, 61, passed away Friday evening at 11:28 p.m. at Baylor University Medical Center, according to Dallas school district officials. District officials have not given an official cause of death, but will hold a news conference at 9:30 a.m. today. Fellow board members expressed shock at the death. Mr. May, known for getting passed a divisive proposal that requires some principals to become bilingual, was in the news much last week over his desire to hire illegal immigrants to fill bilingual teacher positions. Board president Lois Parrott said she was called to the hospital late Friday, but when she arrived Mr. May was already deceased. "Joe May will be deeply missed," Dr. Parrott said in a prepared statement. "He cared so deeply for the children and was always doing so much for the district. That's what his whole life was about-fighting for people's rights. He was a dedicated and sincere person. Without him there will be a void on the board of trustees."

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TOPICS: US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; dallas; immigration; obituary; schoolboard; teachers; texas; tx
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To: peyton randolph

Immersion. Living in Spain for a time with a limited vocabulary of Spanish - I learned by immersion quicker than than any other method. Call it a matter of necessity. If the persons around me were required to speak my language - what would I have gained?


21 posted on 02/11/2006 9:45:23 AM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: ozarkgirl
What is DISD?

Dallas Independent School District

22 posted on 02/11/2006 9:52:39 AM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: daybreakcoming; tertiary01

My comments on immersion are in Post # 8.


23 posted on 02/11/2006 9:59:40 AM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: Regulator

Some of your points are in error.

Even illegal immigrants pay taxes that fund the schools. It's called rent. Unless they are homeless, they pay property taxes. They also pay sales taxes when they buy things, which goes to the state and provides overall statewide school funding.

Yeah, they don't pay income taxes, but they don't typically work high paying jobs... so they wouldn't really pay taxes if they were legal. Besides, we have no state income tax in Texas.


24 posted on 02/11/2006 10:01:46 AM PST by Lunatic Fringe (North Texas Solutions http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: RicocheT
The Devil has called one of his minions home.

You said it better and earlier than I could.
25 posted on 02/11/2006 10:05:10 AM PST by VOA
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To: peyton randolph

Wow, they have over 50% illegal students? Glad I don't live there, are the taxes outrageous in that area? Seems like they would be to support all those illegal students.


26 posted on 02/11/2006 11:04:38 AM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: ozarkgirl
are the taxes outrageous in that area?

Not too bad. Cheaper than both coasts...and Texas does not have a state income tax.

27 posted on 02/11/2006 11:58:32 AM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: peyton randolph
Perhaps you should have read post # 11 before attacking

Undoubtedly I was busily typing while said reply was being posted!

The two propositions you advance would, undoubtedly, solve 90% of the problem.

28 posted on 02/11/2006 12:06:22 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Some of your points are in error

No they aren't. I'm well aware of the counter arguments you make, and was as I posted mine. To wit:

Even illegal immigrants pay taxes that fund the schools. It's called rent. Unless they are homeless, they pay property taxes

It's common for people from Mexico and Central America to live 2 - 3 families to a house. This means they violate the occupancy formulas in the zoning ordinances. So it becomes a subsidy: with 8 - 10 children in a house, there is no way that taxes of say, $2000 / yr (very low in California) would pay for 10 kids in school at an average cost of $7000 / yr, even averaged over decades. Even with just one family and say, 3 - 5 kids (low to average for Mexican / Cent. Amer. families) it's typically a big net subsidy - virtually all are poor, and live in housing that is assessed at low rates. Ever wonder why California is so deep in red ink?

They also pay sales taxes when they buy things, which goes to the state and provides overall statewide school funding

Once again, the amount is trivial compared to the government goodies they get, even when aggregated with other taxes. Why do you think they come here? And unlike Texas, not all states fund schools from sales taxes.

Yeah, they don't pay income taxes, but they don't typically work high paying jobs... so they wouldn't really pay taxes if they were legal. Besides, we have no state income tax in Texas.

Regardless of whether they pay federal or state income taxes due to use of fraudulent docs, they benefit again: they have the protection of the laws and forces of the United States. All the benefits, no obligations. The fact that some measly taxes are taken out means nothing to them. Price of being in the game. Look around the net. You'll find that scamming the taxes is done too: filing for the EITC under the false name, multiple names filing to see if they get someone else's refund (delivered to a PO box in a small border town, in one case).

Come on. Don't try to equate illegals to citizens. If they were interested in playing by the rules, they would have. Once they cross the line into doing nasties....it just leads to more. The fact that our system is set up so that they occasionally end up having to bear the same costs as us merely says they can't totally live outside the system. It still doesn't justify their presence or use of taxpayer funded services.

29 posted on 02/11/2006 12:31:20 PM PST by Regulator
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To: peyton randolph
I know Joe. I was at his memorial. It was like Paul Wellstone's. I lost all respect for the industry of public education. I still respect good school teachers. My last words to the man were " Have fun playing football on a minefield". The 6 years I have known him. I found him to be very foolish in politics and very myopic. It was never about the students...it was about the power. I took away from his memorial that we have a serious problems that people want to play racial politics with children and US Sovern Laws. They are missing the big picture of what is happening at the border. It was 73% are illegal in his district. They are deported the Joe May's lose their underdogs and power. Whites are a total of 12.5% of total student population. I have been told Dallas schools make New Orleans look good. DISD is the play ground for radical racial politics. They have decided to take their failures to national level. Were we will all suffer. Joe's sister wants illegals to have PROFESSIONAL JOBS. I say she set the example and give her job to an illegal (we know that won't happen). I understand she has a storied past. I understand she is running for House or Something out of Austin. I think we need to send her a message, because Politicos like her are ignoring the big picture. She claimed Joe fought for the underdog, which often broke into his house. I doubt he cared everything came from the salvation army. You have to remember his job required US Citizenship, which I found hypocritical. Furthermore, Tawnell Hobbs is a very lazy reporter. I know she missed key parts of stories.
30 posted on 02/14/2006 8:25:02 PM PST by texassizednightcrawler
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