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Soldier's wife holds fundraisers for body armor for troops
AP ^ | Febuary 10 2006

Posted on 02/10/2006 4:07:17 PM PST by jmc1969

Texas: A U-S soldier's wife is launching real and virtual bake sales to raise money to buy body armor for troops -- even though the government has promised to rush more protective gear to those on Iraq's front lines.

Tammara Rosenleaf's husband deployed from Fort Hood in December.

She said the Bake Sales for Body Armor fund-raiser also will provide medical supplies, communications equipment and other needed gear.

Rosenleaf hosts the first bake sale tomorrow in Montana.

Beatriz Saldivar of Fort Worth -- whose nephew Daniel Torres was killed in Iraq a year ago -- said she plans to help organize one soon.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bodyarmor; dod; gear; leftycrapola; leftytwit; militaryfamilies; poser; sheehan

1 posted on 02/10/2006 4:07:18 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

Wasn't there some hoopla that they wouldn't pay benefits for anyone not wearing gov issue? Better protected than not, but whatever became of that order?


2 posted on 02/10/2006 4:11:01 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: jmc1969

...this is entirely correct. I've heard that many troops don't wear all the body armor provided because it adds lots of weight and limits mobility.


3 posted on 02/10/2006 4:18:32 PM PST by ruschpa
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To: jmc1969
She is a Sheehan lefty. Click for yourself.
4 posted on 02/10/2006 4:21:05 PM PST by Leisler (Islam Macht Fries!)
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To: Leisler

It doesn't pass the smell test.


5 posted on 02/10/2006 4:26:00 PM PST by e_castillo
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To: e_castillo
She's 47, that's hubby, 26. He's a E-4 in the Army. Kind of looks like he can't wait to get to Iraq, or at least away from her.
6 posted on 02/10/2006 4:32:52 PM PST by Leisler (Islam Macht Fries!)
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To: Leisler

How come he isn't embracing her?

Is that a spider on her arm?

Yuk!


7 posted on 02/10/2006 4:35:16 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: ruschpa

Sorry, I meant to say "...this is not entirely correct."


8 posted on 02/10/2006 7:18:40 PM PST by ruschpa
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To: mtbopfuyn

That "order" falls in the categoty of urban myth. I think it may have actually been stated by some Lt. but it was never policy.

Living in a military town, we get to hear first-hand. The latest additions have been side-panel and then groin protection add ons. Total weight of gov't issue is now at 33#. More real live people I've talked to than not think we are in the realm of increasing risk by limiting both mobility and heat tolerance.

Make it, ship it, let'em know the quartermaster has it if they want it. Unless my admittedly anectdotal sampling is skewed, most actual ground-pounders will leave it on the shelf.


9 posted on 02/10/2006 7:34:11 PM PST by barkeep
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To: jmc1969

Any time I see "Bake Sale" and anything military related in the same sentence, my antennae go right up.

Looks like it was justified in this case, although anyone sending anything to the troops is a good thing. It is just that their intentions are probably not pure. My guess is they do this kind of thing primarily to try to make the government look bad.


10 posted on 02/10/2006 7:34:20 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: barkeep

I have heard the same thing. I hear that they often wear the stuff that gives them the most protection in the torso area, but often leave the other knick-knacks and doodads off. I think it is human nature.

However, we could bundle our troops in 200 pounds of impact resistant hi tech armor, and a sliver of shrapnel can go in under the helmet line. Then there will STILL be people talking about how inadequate the armor is.


11 posted on 02/10/2006 7:37:59 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: rlmorel

Falls in the category of risk assessment, and to my mind, leave the assessment to the guy taking the risk.

I never personally experienced more than front/back torso jacket, the sort cops wear. I might, for instance, accept extra weight for a four inch added layer down the upper spine, but that has more to do with my personal phobia of paraplegia than actuarial odds.


12 posted on 02/10/2006 8:02:54 PM PST by barkeep
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To: barkeep

I agree with you completely. From what I understand, many SF wear whatever kind of armor they want to, but the regular Army can be...well...the regular Army.


13 posted on 02/10/2006 8:26:19 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: ruschpa
...this is entirely correct. I've heard that many troops don't wear all the body armor provided because it adds lots of weight and limits mobility.

Precisely. Laura Ingram had some soldiers on a couple of weeks ago that said precisely that. If you load up with all the weight of the armor, and have to take along more water because of the heat in Iraq/Afghanistan, then you are even heavier and therefore less mobile. It seemed to be a soldier's choice if he wanted to wear it or not.

14 posted on 02/11/2006 9:10:15 PM PST by p23185
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