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To: Dimensio
"...you need to demonstrate as much by showing significant competence in the field of biology to explain the impossiblities..."

That's precisely what I did. Try reading my reply more slowly. Better still, read on, Pup.

For instance, speaking exoskeletally as point "A":

Did an eyestalk evolve first and then wait aound for the organism in question to develop the eye to fill it? And if so, where did the chitenous protein arrive from to form the eyestalk? How was the new brainstem made aware that it would soon be needed to operate the cognitive function of the as-yet-un-"evolved" eyeball? And what of the nervous system, the receptors in the retinal cortex and the subsequent cicuitry needed to transmit the neurally interpreted image to the brainstem for eventual recognition?
OR... did all of these things just explode onto the evolutionary scene unbidden?

And if so, where is the fossil record of that event?

Second instance, speaking endoskeletally as point "B":

Did an orbital socket evolve first and then wait aound for the organism in question to develop the eye to fill it? And if so, where did the calcified nutrients arrive from to form the skull? How was the new brain made aware that it would soon be needed to operate the cognitive function of the as-yet-un-"evolved" eyeball? And what of the cornea, the lens, the nervous system, the receptors in the retinal cortex and the subsequent cicuitry needed to transmit the neurally interpreted image to the brain for eventual recognition?
OR... did all of these things just explode onto the evolutionary scene unbidden?

And if so, where is the fossil record of that event?

The conundrum to which I explicitly referred in my prior reply expresses unambiguously that each of these systems; Nervous, Respiratory, Circulatory, Skeletal, Musculature; are all interdependent and irreducibly complex.

That means that each is so dependent upon all the others for its existence and function that they could not develop one at a time while waiting around for the others to catch up.

THEREFORE, either they exploded into being in a Mini-Evo-Bang, all at once (and if they did, where is the fossil record?)...,

...or they were Created in a massivley complicated master design by The Creator, which would explain not only how they all came into interdependent being at once AND why there exists no fossil record.

Science also teaches that the most elegant (simple) explanation is often the correct one.

Ah, argument from incredulity

Actually, I cited both incredulity and the fact that such an assumption constitutes an explicit abdication of every principle of known science. Your pseudo-Democrat-like oversimplification does a severe disservice to an otherwise enjoyable intellectual discussion. Please try to avoid the same in the future

Try to keep up. I do like your enthusiasm... it almost makes up for your obtuse and petulant inattentiveness.

;-/

142 posted on 02/13/2006 7:59:53 PM PST by Gargantua (For those who believe in God, no explanation is needed; for those who do not, no explanation exists.)
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To: Gargantua

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB301.html
http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/creation/eye_time.html

The short summary is that for an eye, there is no question of irreducible complexity. Half an eye is very useful if you pick the right half. The same is true of many of the other body parts or systems you mention. Plenty of examples exist of creatures that have less complexity than humans and survive just fine.


143 posted on 02/14/2006 11:28:09 PM PST by Thalos
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