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To: Ichneumon

Why do you guys always want to change the meaning of words. Christians? According to what definition? Look, if you want to believe in evolution, that's your business. Just don't redefine 2,000 years of Christian Orthodoxy so that you can have it both ways.


158 posted on 02/10/2006 2:54:36 PM PST by Snowbelt Man (ideas have consequences)
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To: Snowbelt Man
Why do you guys always want to change the meaning of words.

We don't. You do, however, as shown by your next desperate tactic:

Christians? According to what definition?

The standard one -- people who believe in the divinity of Christ. *You're* the one who wants to redefine the term such that anyone who happens to accept modern biology isn't a "real" Christian...

Look, if you want to believe in evolution, that's your business.

Why thank you.

Just don't redefine 2,000 years of Christian Orthodoxy so that you can have it both ways.

I'm not. You are. Meanwhile, let's hear you tell us that *these* people aren't Christians either:

The "Clergy Letter Project": An Open Letter Concerning Religion and Science

"We the undersigned, Christian clergy from many different traditions, believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist. We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children. We believe that among God’s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator. To argue that God’s loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God, an act of hubris. We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge. We ask that science remain science and that religion remain religion, two very different, but complementary, forms of truth.

[As of 29 January 2006, there are 10,230 signatures collected to date]

Click the links that follow to see the alphabetical lists of clergy members who have endorsed this letter

A to E  - F to J - K to O - P to S - T to Z

Listing by States

But hey, I guess *you* know better than 10,000+ Christian clergy, eh?

Your arrogance is astounding. And don't try to accuse *us* of trying to "redefine" the meaning of Christian when *you're* the one denying the Christianity of countless followers of Christ just because you're rabidly against the findings of biology.

162 posted on 02/10/2006 3:01:28 PM PST by Ichneumon
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