Four Presidents and a Funeral (Pure CRAP not worth the Bandwidth)

Opinion Journal ^ | 2/10/06 | Peggy Noonan [a aged marooon]

[tallhappy]

Great comments.

[harpu]

"Peggy wrote "read my lips;" GHWB broke the pledge which she wrote into his convention speech, and which he gave - and got elected on. GHWB is responsible for breaking it. GHWB is hardly the hero that Ronald Reagan was. Well, who is - but the way to continue the Reagan legacy which got GHWB elected was not to let Dick Darman negotiate a tax rate increase. And I think Peggy knows that.

GHWB and Barbara (with her cookie baking contest) helped Perot get Clinton in the White House. All very well for the elder Bush family to be able to feel above it all and honorable that they took the high road - but the truth is that they were responsible for helping us get good leadership in the 1992 election - and they failed. Without the tax hike they probably succeed; even with it they had a chance by playing hardball on the skeletons in the Clintons' closet. HW and Barbara functioned as Judas goats to prevent us from understanding the Clintons. Not that it took a genius to see thru them, but the median voter falls a bit short of that."

OUCH...very well said!!

[harpu]

Oh geez...why didn't I check earlier?!?

You got that kind of mentality.

[PeskyOne]

Peggy Noonan has lost it. Her writing, instead of improving with age, is the pits. Last week's column and this one reveal more about Peggy than she realizes. She obviously does not know the meaning of the words 'respect and dignity'. Coretta Scott King deserved a 'home-going' of respect and dignity....she did not receive it. Jimmy Carter and Joseph Lowery claim to be Christians, but one didn't see Christ in either of them. We saw two aged, bitter, and spiteful men behaving like spoiled brats. The Clinton's, as usual, were their silly, imbecilic selves saying, "Look how cute I am" Ugh!

What has happened to Peggy Noonan? She criticizes the President for doing what anybody with a grain of sense knows is common decency...behaving in a mature and sympathetic manner and honoring Mrs. King. Peggy belongs to the same league as Maureen Dowd....pathetic!

[tallhappy]

The column was about how the Clintons are going to run for office and how if you don't get your head out of where ever it is (eg this thread's inanities) they are going to win.

[jla]

What exactly bothers you about this column?

[jla]

"What bothers you and others so much about this column?"

If you have to ask, it wouldn't matter if we explained!

Harpu...Can you answer the question, or not?

[PeskyOne]

You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine, and I don't need your asinine comments. You'd do better if you took your own advice and 'got your head out of wherever it is'. What in the heck makes you think you know more than anyone else? Is it the California mentality ala Feinstein and Boxer?

[jla]

Is the 'California mentality' anything comparable to the 'Texas mentality' that elected Ann Richards to the governorship in the early 90s?
Of course it isn't, because it is childish to lump the residents of an entire state into one category.

Now, what exactly about Peggy Noonan's column has you so upset?

[RobFromGa]

I wonder if it wouldn't be good if somewhere along the way, just once in your life, you got to call your own funeral. Pick the church, the speakers, the music, sit in the pew, clap when they talk about how wonderful you were. Then afterwards have a long lunch and toast your memory. Then the next day you go to work as usual, but maybe in a different mood. I don't see why we don't do this. Is this a stupid thing to say? It's allowed. I've got free speech.

I think she's just trying to make sure the moonbats are nice to her at her funeral. Her continued negative comments towards the C-i-C are her way of expressing her solidarity with the elitist idealists of the left.

[jla]

You know, I really do think that Peggy Noonan should use illustrations, (pictures!), with her columns so you folks might then be capable of grasping an iota of what she's trying to convey.

[jla]

Another FR thread that delineates the dissimilar mindsets of conservatives and Republicans.

[Beth528]

I agree with you on this one...I use to like to read Peggy Noonan's articles but no more..I think she is trying to be everyones sweet heart including the dems...I never bother going out of my way to find anything she writes any more..And if you ask me she has a bloated opinion of herself like she is some great writer..

[RobFromGa]

She's so much more intelligent than all of us, I'm not sure pictures would suffice to lat us in on her wisdom-- maybe if she can't do it with words she should retire her pen. I think the problem is that she is not a real conservative, like many politicians she is trying to be liked by everyone.

When she makes it obvious in her column that she does not find demagoguing a current President by an ex-President and others at a funeral is inappropriate behavior, those of us who find such behavior repugnant will not like said column.

[RobFromGa]

Another FR thread that delineates the dissimilar mindsets of conservatives and Republicans.

You think this column makes Noonan appear conservative?

[PeskyOne]

You are right; I shouldn't have lumped all the residents of one state into one category. I was being as smart-alecky as I thought he was!

I've always expected Noonan to write intellectually honest columns, but lately, she seems more intent upon praising, or ignoring, the acts of the left, and she demeans President Bush at every opportunity. I did not have the same impression of the funeral as she did. I thought we had a right to express our opinions in this forum. I do not mind being disagreed with; but it does not have to be in an insulting manner such as he did.

[linda_22003]

Very true. This is why it's kind of too bad the whole article did not get posted; people are only reading snippets instead of context. Let's not forget that George H.W. has never been a particular friend of the right wing of the party, nor he to them. Adding the sentence "Attack him from the right; you won't be overwhelmed by his bonhomie then", is correct, and puts her previous remark in context.

[Howlin]

That's the part that jumped out at me.

I cannot believe that anybody can read this diatribe and continue to defend her on this forum.

The old lions of the great American civil rights movement of the 20th century were there, and standing tall. The old lionesses, too. There was preaching and speechifying and at the end I thought: This is how democracy ought to be, ought to look every day--full of the joy of argument, and marked by the moral certainty that here you can say what you think.

I can almost SEE her drooling.

[harpu]

"I cannot believe that anybody can read this diatribe and continue to defend her on this forum."

Simply amazing - one might say!

[Howlin]

.From what I saw and read those old wind bag democrats were at it just like they were at Paul Wellstons memorial service..Using it for a political rally...

Plus you said this:

It was not like the Wellstone memorial

You're exactly right; and your posts made me realize one thing: they've gotten "better" at it. All they've done is cleaned up their dog and pony show in an attempt to make it more acceptable to the general public.

The snottiness is still there; the opportunistic rant is still there; they're just smiling now.