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To: FormerLib
No, I just don't fool so easily. ;-)

If you take Mr. Lee's article at face value, perhaps you should reconsider your claim....

I'm quite serious about this: Mr. Lee is essentially claiming that the likes of ex-Father O'Neill is an agent of a conspiracy. But is that really necessary?

Mr. Lee's article contains some very useful descriptions of the power of delusion, desire, and rationalization. He should have left it at that, as it's a sufficient explanation.

When he tries to build it into something more than that, I begin to distrust him. Seriously: do you really believe that the owners of Lobo's would spend scads of money on fake stock, just to lure homos to the pornography in back? Pshaw. There's no need to assume it.

69 posted on 02/09/2006 11:21:22 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
And I'll say it again, it's more a fraud and an extension of their own self-delusion than it is any conspiracy.

I stand by the statement, I do not fool so easily. It appears that you could not say the same.

74 posted on 02/09/2006 11:30:36 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: r9etb
I'm quite serious about this: Mr. Lee is essentially claiming that the likes of ex-Father O'Neill is an agent of a conspiracy. But is that really necessary?

In 1982, Fr. Enrique Rueda published THE HOMOSEXUAL NETWORK (Devin-Adair, of course long since out of print). He made a good case that there was a homosexual conspiracy within the Catholic Church. He included copies of newsletters they sent to one another, agendas of symposia held by New Ways Ministry, and lots of other information strongly suggesting that the homosexuals knew each other and were consciously cooperating.

Some of the people he names, such as Fr. Shanley, were already active in the 1970s.

Conspiracy or not, it's a real shame that the Bishops didn't pay attention to him when the book came out. A lot of grief could have been avoided.

79 posted on 02/09/2006 11:33:15 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: r9etb
Seriously: do you really believe that the owners of Lobo's would spend scads of money on fake stock, just to lure homos to the pornography in back?

The stock isn't out front to lure the turd burglars into the back, the stock in the back does that!

The stock out front is to conceal their true business and represents just another cost of doing business. Without it, they'd be out of business and we've certainly seen enough evidence to support the idea that porn can be quite a lucrative business.

Besides, it certainly appears that they never have to spend much on restocking the front, now does it?

82 posted on 02/09/2006 11:35:49 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: r9etb

It seems quite obvious to my read and from previous comments that the arrangement in stores such as that are intentionally done to both present one "public" personna about the places and to secondly present the reality "hidden" from public view. It implies secondary access for secondary purpose and, in effect, yes, a conspiracy in that regard.

All the word, "conspiracy" MEANS is that two or more persons collaborate for purposes of agreing to work concertedly toward a goal. Go look up the word.

It doesn't necessarily involve wire tappings and aliens invasions, and such. It can be as banal a thing as pornography shops pretending to be bookstores, just as described. I know that many video stores behave similarly, if and when they have pornography sections, hiding them in the back...which people only know about when they have some purpose that involves the section, so to speak.

The only reason I know about the one in a local video stores is I once saw someone I knew who literally was "sneaking" in the back around some hidden shelves and it pretty well broadcasted what he was doing and why. Up to then, I actually thought that there were dedicated and separate video stores for that. Surprise, there aren't.

As to homosexual pornography, I haven't a clue. But this guy's story seems accurate (the article) and, from my own surprise awareness about the local store, I'm sure that pornography for homosexuals is equally somewhat covertly available by merchants.

The point of the article, however, about this one point, is that he's describing merchants that are dedicated homosexual-fare purveyors. Not like it's Blockbuster or Tower, but actual shops that exist for that mere purpose (homosexual pornography) with moreorless "storefront" deflections to avoid making their actual purpose highly visible.

So, yes, in that sense, within the context of the homosexual agenda, a cultural sense, yes, merchants of that sort are involved in CONSPIRING to conceal their wares. Thus, conspiracy.


91 posted on 02/09/2006 11:52:34 AM PST by MillerCreek
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