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Canceling NASA's Terrestrial Planet Finder
spaceref.com ^ | 02/06/06 | Keith Crowing

Posted on 02/08/2006 8:16:29 PM PST by KevinDavis

In a document titled "A Renewed Spirit of Discovery" released on the same day that President Bush announced his Vision for Space Exploration in January 2004, the White House directed NASA, as part of the new "Vison for Space Exploration" to "Conduct advanced telescope searches for Earth-like planets and habitable environments around other stars".

In a statement released today, the Planetary Society expressed their strong concerns about the cancellation of this and other space science missions. Planetary Society President, Wesley T. Huntress, Jr., observed that this action amounts to "essentially transferring funds from a popular and highly productive program into one [Space Shuttle] scheduled for termination."

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Why can't the Planetary Society fund it themselves if they are concern about the TPF???
1 posted on 02/08/2006 8:16:31 PM PST by KevinDavis
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2 posted on 02/08/2006 8:17:18 PM PST by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: KevinDavis
Latest Discover suggested there are two competing terrestrial telescope systems up against this space based system, and all of them need lots of money.

The terrestrial systems would seem to be better choices for whatever funding is available.

3 posted on 02/08/2006 8:19:46 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: KevinDavis
I liked this one; kill some other less meaningful science mission
4 posted on 02/08/2006 8:22:10 PM PST by demlosers (Kerry: "Impeach Bush, filibuster Alito, withdraw from Iraq, send U235 to Iran, elect me President!")
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To: muawiyah; All

True, but I'm asking if the Planetary Society is really concerned about the TPF, can't they fund it themselves???


5 posted on 02/08/2006 8:23:16 PM PST by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: demlosers; All

Like the mission to Earth crap... Hey at least the Hubble will be saved..


6 posted on 02/08/2006 8:24:14 PM PST by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: muawiyah; Brett66

I'm sorry, isn't there this big push for private space launching of both satelites and passenger crafts? Why can't the projects be privately funded and still use a space based system? Just think of the possibilities. Your a company that finds a habitable planet, maybe 6 to 10 parsecs out. You lay claim, 500 years later your companies vehicle arrives on the new planet and your company has the monopoly. Pretty exciting even knowing you may not live to see it happen. I say "may not" because with the incredible leaps we are making in healthcare and nanotechnology it might be possible to extend human life by a few centuries. Instead of celebrating the 120th birthday of the oldest living human, we could be celebrating his/her 350th. It's possible, and many would say probable.


7 posted on 02/08/2006 8:29:32 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: phoenix0468; All

Never say never...


8 posted on 02/08/2006 8:41:29 PM PST by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: phoenix0468

Whether or not you can claim anything in space is yet to be determined. Any claims of national soveriegnty are expressly forbidden by the Outer Space Treaty.

As far as private funding, with the advent of nanotechnology, such things would be affordable by small groups of people. In fact, entire space colonies could be funded by a small group of people with a mature nanotechnology.


9 posted on 02/08/2006 8:48:41 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: KevinDavis

Believe me, I am confident that things like nanotechnology, mapping the genome, and other absolutely incredible breakthroughs in science will lead to longer life, by an exponential, not multiple, factor. Think of the ramifications of finding ways to slow aging so that a man or woman 500 years old has the health of a 30 year old. The possibility of space travel to another solor system would be within our reach. Heck, the possibility of just roaming around in space for the heck of it would be within our reach. We are living, IMO, in the most exciting time for advancements in healthcare, science, and technology.


10 posted on 02/08/2006 8:50:29 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: Brett66

What about the people who have bought land on the moon. Are their claims invalid, and therefore the company that sold it to them a fraud?


11 posted on 02/08/2006 8:51:59 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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I agree.. I'm sad the tpf is cancelled, however, I think the Planetary Society can fund the telescope themselves. As for science I'm not afraid at all...


12 posted on 02/08/2006 8:54:10 PM PST by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: phoenix0468

The short answer is yes. There is absolutely no nation that recognizes any claims made of the moon or any other object in space. Once someone lands there and stakes a claim, that will create some difficulty in sorting out, because a physical presence can be the basis of a legitimate claim.


13 posted on 02/08/2006 8:55:09 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: demlosers

> kill some other less meaningful science mission

My vote: Social Security. That particular experiment in social engineering was completed *decades* ago.


14 posted on 02/08/2006 9:32:10 PM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: KevinDavis

More worthwhile science projects down the tubes to fund the "man in space program". I guess going around in circles forever is better than actually accomplishing anything scientifically useful. /sarc/


15 posted on 02/08/2006 10:10:51 PM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: KevinDavis

My humble suggestion is to team up with India and Brazil. For one thing, I'd like to see an equatorial launch facility, particularly if it means bulldozing some more rain forest. ;')

NASA seeks partners as budgets tighten
New Scientist Space | 02/08/06 | Maggie McGee
Posted on 02/08/2006 8:20:42 PM PST by KevinDavis
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1574870/posts


16 posted on 02/08/2006 10:16:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (If you could read my mind, you'd know I dislike Gordon Lightfoot.)
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To: muawiyah; KevinDavis

"Latest Discover suggested there are two competing terrestrial telescope systems up against this space based system" [muawiyah]

and best of all, it's online now. Maybe a space ping list topic?

http://www.discover.com/issues/feb-06/cover/


17 posted on 02/08/2006 10:20:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (If you could read my mind, you'd know I dislike Gordon Lightfoot.)
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To: Brett66
Any claims of national soveriegnty are expressly forbidden by the Outer Space Treaty.

Basically killed off any incentive for serious space exploration. If Spain and Portugal had agreed not to make any territorial claims in the New World instead of letting the Pope divide it between them, we would all be sitting in old Europe learning Arabic and waiting for the Aztecs to discover us.
18 posted on 02/09/2006 3:29:50 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Brett66
Gee whiz, I forgot to sign that treaty.

Well, too late now.

19 posted on 02/09/2006 5:56:38 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: KevinDavis

This program is the most important one that NASA ever had. If they had only one program it should be this one. I don't often agree with the Planetary Society, but they have been right more often in the post-Sagan epoch.


20 posted on 02/09/2006 10:39:25 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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