Tories to raise age of consent

Sun Media ^ | 2006-02-08 | Kathleen Harris

[CaptainCanada]

So now a 40 year old man can legally sodomize a 16 year
old boy. Of course Canada is much
more "progressive" than the US.

Yes, if 1 + 1 = 2, then 2 + 2 = 7....

[Paleo Conservative]

From what I understand, SCOTUS upheld the Texas laws against homosexual activity, but I could be mistaken.

It's not something I follow, really. I just knew of this site from another thread.

They upheld it (1986) before they overturned it (2003).

[MineralMan]

"They upheld it (1986) before they overturned it (2003)."

OK. Then I guess the age of 17 is the legal age there. Did you know that the age of consent in Hawaii used to be 13, until they raised not too long ago?

[little jeremiah]

FYI.

[proud_yank]

i hope they really do crack down on people who commit crimes with a gun

Why only for crimes comitted with a firearm?

[Former Proud Canadian]

Re post 4, the liberals did it. Are you surprised?

[ferri]

Why only for crimes comitted with a firearm?

it is the jerks that use guns when holding up a store or mugging someone that are causing so many to scream for gun control. i know most states have longer sentences if a firearm is used in the commision of a crime, right? so make it automatic here.

[VOA]

How did they reduce the age of consent to that?

I guess because they couldn't get it down to age 12, as proposed
by Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
(I just had to say it as an American with family in Canada)

[Clive]

The other things about crimes committed with guns is that the turkeys who are using them for crimes have no training and no concept of fire discipline and so they are just as likely to spray the neighbourhood and kill innocent children as to actually hit what they are aiming at.

Witness the people wounded and the teen girl killed on Yonge Street on Boxing when a firefight between gangs broke out amidst innocent shoppers on the busiest shopping day of the year and the 19 year old girl killed yesterday when she went to pick up her boyfriend after a basketball game and a child killed a few months ago while waiting for a bus.

It comes down to crappy fire discipline by people who know nothing about firearms other than if you pull the little dingus in front of the handle you get a loud noise and exciting things happen and you get to be a hero among the other thugs with whom you associate.

[ferri]

yes! not to mention the fact that most of them are stolen guns in the first place...there was also a shooting not long ago in Vancouver, no one was hit, a woman sitting in her apt. watching t.v. and a bullet hits the wall. no idea why, just someone out goofing off i guess...

here in Kelowna we had someone wandering around town in the middle of the night (teens) shootin a pistol. i heard the shots and heard them laughing and yelling, they ended up 'just' blowing out the door on a shoe repair shop. cute.

[proud_yank]

Personally, I think that sentencing should be the same if you use a knife to murder someone, or use a firearm to murder someone.

i know most states have longer sentences if a firearm is used in the commision of a crime

I think you are correct. But again, I think putting a knife to someone's throat during a robbery should get the same sentence as a gun to someone's temple. I'll have to see if I can find the article someone posted here, but in the US you are 80% more likely to go to jail for a crime than in Canada. I think stiffer sentencing all around is necessary.

[Canadian Outrage]

I think issues so important should be the same as the age of majority which is 19 but the truth is, it would be unenforceable. A lot of parents can't control their 16 year olds now.

[Paleo Conservative]

I think issues so important should be the same as the age of majority which is 19 but the truth is, it would be unenforceable. A lot of parents can't control their 16 year olds now.

It's not about controlling 16 year olds; it's about controlling adults who should know better. If those adults were charged with statutory rape and sent to prison, they'd be an example of what not to do.

[Sam Gamgee]

Only if it is consensual.

[Paleo Conservative]

Only if it is consensual.

There can be no legal consent if a one of the partners is below the age of consent.

[Sam Gamgee]

What I mean is that sex with a 16 year old is OK as long as that sex is consensual - it doesn't matter what kind of sex it is.

Under 16, yes, it is illegal regardless.

[goldstategop]

16 is an age when you're practically an adult. I don't think 14 year olds should be having sex with any one. Its incumbent upon us to do all we can to protect our children and the Conservatives in Canada are doing the right thing by toughening the country's laws against sexual predators.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

[Paleo Conservative]

What I mean is that sex with a 16 year old is OK as long as that sex is consensual - it doesn't matter what kind of sex it is.

I think it should be higher than 16 if the older person is more than two years older.

[Canadian Outrage]

Clive, perhaps the liberal politicans should have thought about "crime", gun, knife or otherwise, BEFORE they started importing criminals from Jamaica and many other places. The Liberals "easy and open door" immigration policy has had a LOT to do with the mega increase in these crimes. The Liberals CREATED this problem and now they want to punish those of us who have NEVER committed a crime. Gun safety courses are good to take but don't be expecting the "criminals" to enroll. What we have in Toronto, Vancouver and probably Montnreal are GANGS. Vancouver - Asian and Indo gangs; Toronto - Jamaican, Asian and God only knows what else gangs; Montreal - probably Arab gangs and we know they have Hells Angels as well. Immigration needs FAST FIXIN.!! CO

[rasblue]

This law needs to be dome and I support it, but whaat I don't get is why is this the very first thing that the Conservatives are doing.... Is it THAT urgent? Someone very powerful must have had a daughter with an older boyfriend......