[Mulder]

The liability falls on the owner of the property, and it comes down to the property owner to make the decision as to what may serve him best.

Why does the liability fall on the property owner? Is this not a result of actions by the state (judicial and legislative)?

Therefore, if state action (placing all liability on the property owner) is the reason for banning guns, is this not a de facto infringement on the 2nd amendment by the state?

[Luis Gonzalez]

Come on man, you can't be this thick and actually believe yourself a conservative.

If I fall down on your drive way, you are liable for my injuries. If I am attacked on your property, you are liable for my injuries.

The reason for "banning" guns is that the property owner has the right AS A PROPERTY OWNER to set rules and conditions for your access and continued presence in his property.