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1 posted on 02/07/2006 5:58:08 PM PST by blam
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wonder what religion they prescribe to


2 posted on 02/07/2006 6:02:09 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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Ah.. these are the ones that do the Dell Service Line when I call I bet.

Nasty sumbitches.

3 posted on 02/07/2006 6:02:20 PM PST by DainBramage
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GGG Ping?

The Lonely Islands: The Andamanese

4 posted on 02/07/2006 6:02:21 PM PST by blam
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At first I thought the article was describing the Kennedy family compound on Martha's Vineyard. Then I realized this tribe was far more advanced than most liberals.


7 posted on 02/07/2006 6:07:00 PM PST by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net (The facts of life are conservative -- Margaret Thatcher)
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And we thought the Fish and Game Laws in the States were tough.


8 posted on 02/07/2006 6:09:39 PM PST by ChefKeith (Flies,fleas,ants,ticks,cockroaches,bad cops,lawyers,judges & politicians All the same. Useless!!!)
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Environmental groups urged the authorities to leave the bodies and respect the three-mile exclusion zone thrown around the island.

That is disgusting. I say we send the enviro-nuts to that island.

9 posted on 02/07/2006 6:10:18 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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Sounds like some civilized Muslims.


11 posted on 02/07/2006 6:11:10 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (expell the fat arrogant carcasses of Congress)
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GILLIGAN ! GILLIGAN? WHERE ARE YOU LITTLE BUDDY? :-)


13 posted on 02/07/2006 6:12:50 PM PST by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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Environmental groups urged the authorities to leave the bodies and respect the three-mile exclusion zone thrown around the island. What? Are they an animal group to be preserved? They would rather leave them as savages? However, the experience of the Jarawa since their emergence - sexual exploitation, alcoholism and a measles epidemic - has encouraged efforts to protect the Sentinelese from a similar fate. Oh right - don't bring them into the modern world they might... live longer... have better lives...
14 posted on 02/07/2006 6:13:40 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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The relatives are restless tonight.


15 posted on 02/07/2006 6:17:46 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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weird


19 posted on 02/07/2006 6:29:30 PM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality) - ("Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein)
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No outside contact. No treaties. No trade. No external hostile acts. Their island. Their rules.

Leave them alone.

Let the fisherman's bodies rot.


26 posted on 02/07/2006 6:42:25 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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The Andaman & Nicobar Islands form the southernmost territorial possesions of India. The Nicobar chain of islands are largely untouched. Barring a few Indian military bases, most of the islands that are inhabited, are peopled by native tribes who refuse any outside contact.

Most are extremely primitive, and are considered savage and brutal to outsiders. The Indian Government allows people to visit these islands only after explicit permission is sought from the federal government.

27 posted on 02/07/2006 6:43:33 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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This contradicts nothing, have they not heard of a clam bake. They were getting ready for marinaded curry.


28 posted on 02/07/2006 6:50:11 PM PST by Dead Dog
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http://www.ashanet.org/library/articles/hindu060699.html


Tribal trauma - The Andaman story




Four negrito tribal groups which inhabit the Andaman and Nicobar islands face extinction today due to large-scale developmental activities in the region. PANKAJ SEKHSARIA sounds a note of caution.

THE Andaman and Nicobar islands today are a stark illustration of the problems that tribal groups, who lived comfortably in their natural environment, face when confronted with ``development''. Four negrito tribal groups - the Great Andamanese, the Onge, the Jarawa and the Sentinelese inhabit the Andaman islands. Their background and origin is unclear and continues to be a subject of speculation among scholars and anthropologists. Their past remains obscure, the present clearly unpleasant and the future grim, and uncertain.

For the Great Andamanese, the story is all but over. They have been virtually wiped off the surface of the earth. This was the community that was first befriended by the outside world following the establishment of the British penal colony in 1858. The British used the Great Andamanese both for searching the convicts who escaped from the Cellular jail and in fighting other hostile tribes in the islands, particularly the Jarawa. An Andaman home was established to educate and ``civilise'' them.

The results started showing up soon. Isolated for centuries, the Great Andamanese had no resistance against some of the commonest diseases. Epidemics of pneumonia in 1868, measles in 1877, influenza in 1896, and syphillis killed them by the hundreds. Addiction to tobacco and liquor took an additional toll. From an estimated 5,000 individuals in the 19th Century, the population of the Great Andamanese is down to only 28 today and there is really no hope that they will revive. The British can well be blamed for the fate of the Great Andamanese, but the fact is that even after Independence things never really improved.

Independent India's official plan for the `colonisation' of the Andaman and Nicobar islands was put in place in the Sixties. Thousands of settlers from mainland India were brought in, completely disregarding the rights of the indigenous communities.

The 730 sq.km. island of Little Andaman, the only and exclusive home of the Onge, was specially chosen.. It was suggested that large areas of forest be clear-felled for the establishment of settlements, for agriculture, and for large-scale commercial plantations. The timber from the felled forests could then fuel the timber-based units that would be set up to support the settler populations.

Fortunately, the scale at which these developmental activities were planned and proposed could never be attained. A red oil palm plantation was created over an area of 1600 hectares but was never expanded. Logging started and is present even today, but it never really took off to the scale suggested. Whereas 12,000 settler families were expected to be brought into Little Andaman, today the number is only around 3000 families.

Despite this, the damage to the environment has been significant. Deforestation, in particular, has had evident effects. Scientific studies in the late Eighties clearly established that soil erosion from clear-felled forest areas resulted in the death of corals in the surrounding seas. Habitat destruction and excessive poaching by the settlers has resulted in a sharp decline in the numbers of the endemic species such as the Andaman Wild Pig, endangered sea turtles that nest on the island's beaches and the dugong that was once common in the coastal waters. All these creatures are not just vital sources of food for the Onge, they also play an integral role in their culture and society. Their unavailability leaves gaps for the Onge that cannot be filled.

The Andaman Adim Jan Jati Vikas Samiti (The Andaman Tribal Welfare Society), AAJVS, and the administration has also tried to encourage the hunter, gatherer, nomadic Onge to change their traditional lifestyle and move into the settlements that were created for them. It was and continues to be a blatant attempt to get more and easier access to the land and timber resources of the island.

Simultaneously, as a welfare measure, free doles were offered to the Onge by the AAJVS; milk powder, rice, dal, bread, biscuits, even tobacco which was given at the rate of 250 gms for each adult. The Onge have been systematically weaned away from their nutrient rich, traditional diets (but as these natural resources are not available, do the Onge really have any choice but to turn to the government handouts?) and have become increasingly dependent on the government handouts to meet their needs.

The settlers went a step further, introducing alcohol to these people. It is an addiction that has strangled the Onge, making them much more susceptible to exploitation. Precious resources like honey, resins, ambergris and turtle eggs are now exchanged by them for the ubiquitous bottle popularly known as 180.

Arrogance, ignorance and insensitivity characterise the attitude of the dominant civilisation towards the Onge. It is an attitude that prevent us from even acknowledging the great knowledge that the Onge have, leave alone learning from it. The Onge are expert navigators and make excellent, sea worthy outrigger canoes. They have knowledge of a plant that may have a cure for the dreaded disease of cerebral malaria and another, whose extract they use of sedate bees when extracting honey from their hives. Examples like these are fascinating but sadly, today it is the very survival of these people that is at stake. Destruction of their lands and their forests coupled with cultural domination has broken the spirit of the Onge. From an estimated population of 670 at the turn of the century, their number today is only about a hundred and it is anybody's guess how long they will be able to survive.

That brings us to the Jarawa and the Sentinelese with estimated population of 250 and 100 individuals respectively. Both these communities have so far escaped the fate of the Great Andamanese and the Onge because of their extreme hostility and distrust of modern civilisation. Though the Sentinelese are still secure, things are now changing for the Jarawa.

In October, 1997, for the first time ever, the extremely hostile Jarawas came out from the forests to interact with the settler populations. The official explanation was that the Jarawas are facing an acute shortage of food in their territory and it is hunger that has driven them out. It was a very convenient explanation and ignored the policies that the administration has followed over the past few decades. Like the Onge, the Jarawas too have been pushed in from all sides. On the one hand, the AAJVS and the administration tried to befriend the Jarawas, using the friendly `contact missions' to offer them gifts of coconut and bananas, a strategy akin to bribery or even to the practise of scattering grain to ensnare birds.

On the other hand, virtual war was declared on their territory, forests and resources. Large areas of forests were cleared for the settlements of mainlanders. The Andaman Trunk Road was constructed that cut through the heart of Jarawa territory and huge - scale logging operations continue even today, moving further and further into the forest home of the Jarawa. The Jarawas, who once freely roamed the length and breadth of the Andaman islands are now confined to a small 720 sq.km. Jarawa reserve on the western coast.

The area of the Jarawa reserve has some of the best and largest sources of timber that still survive in the islands. With the subversion of their hostility, it is now hoped that it will all become available for extraction. Already mining of sand from the beaches within the Jarawa reserve has begun, something that was inconceivable a couple of years ago.

The settler communities were amused, even excited by the initial Jarawa forays into their settlements. Now they are getting irritated and the Jarawas are increasingly being looked upon as intruders. Conflict situations are on the rise and Jarawas who came out into the settlements have reportedly been thrashed by the incensed settlers.

Settlers have been seen offering tobacco and gutkha to the Jarawas and it is a matter of time before liquor follows. Jarawas, wearing soiled clothes dancing to the tune of Hindi film music, munching away at a packet of uncle Chipps'?. These are not just possibilities. Scenes like this are now regularly reported from the islands and this is only the beginning.

Disease destroyed the Great Andamanese, the Onge are just about surviving, the Jarawas appear to have taken their first step. But the lessons are still not learnt. The Andaman tribes may have survived through the 20th Century, but only just. Considering the present situation, it is unlikely the same will be said of these tribes at the end of the next century.







29 posted on 02/07/2006 6:50:16 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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Image hosted by Photobucket.com you say you don't have a Flag...??? we'll get back to that.
31 posted on 02/07/2006 7:05:55 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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Border security.


40 posted on 02/07/2006 7:14:54 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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  MSNBC.com

Stone Age cultures survive tsunami waves
Indian islanders apparently heeded ancient lore

By Neelesh Misra
The Associated Press
Updated: 4:38 p.m. ET Jan. 4, 2005

PORT BLAIR, India - Two days after a tsunami thrashed the island where his ancestors have lived for tens of thousands of years, a lone tribesman stood naked on the beach and looked up at a hovering coast guard helicopter.

He then took out his bow and shot an arrow toward the rescue chopper.

It was a signal the Sentinelese have sent out to the world for millennia: They want to be left alone. Isolated from the rest of the world, the tribesmen needed to learn nature's sights, sounds and smells to survive.

Government officials and anthropologists believe that ancient knowledge of the movement of wind, sea and birds may have saved the five indigenous tribes on the Indian archipelago of Andaman and Nicobar islands from the tsunami that hit the Asian coastline Dec. 26.

A Sentinelese man aims his bow and arrow at an Indian Coast Guard helicopter as it flies over his island on Dec. 28, surveying for tsunami damage. Circumstantial evidence suggests the indigenous tribes of the southern archipelago of Andaman and Nicobar used ancient know-how to save themselves from the catastrophic tsunami.

Anthropological Survey of India / AP Three boys from the Jawara tribe in India's Andaman and Nicobar archipelago pose in a photo released by the Anthropological Survey of India.

"They can smell the wind. They can gauge the depth of the sea with the sound of their oars. They have a sixth sense which we don't possess," said Ashish Roy, a local environmentalist and lawyer who has called on the courts to protect the tribes by preventing their contact with the outside world.

Frozen in the Paleolithic past
The tribes live the most ancient, nomadic lifestyle known to man, frozen in their Paleolithic past. Many produce fire by rubbing stones, fish and hunt with bow and arrow and live in leaf and straw community huts. And they don't take kindly to intrusions.

Anil Thapliyal, a commander in the Indian coast guard, said he spotted the lone tribesman on the island of Sentinel, a 23-square-mile (60-square-kilometer) key, on Dec. 28.

"There was a naked Sentinelese man," Thapliyal told The Associated Press. "He came out and shot an arrow at the helicopter."

According to varying estimates, there are only about 400 to 1,000 members alive today from the Great Andamanese, Onges, Jarawas, Sentinelese and Shompens. Some anthropological DNA studies indicate the generations may have spanned back 70,000 years. They originated in Africa and migrated to India through Indonesia, anthropologists say.

It appears that many tribesman fled the shores well before the waves hit the coast, where they would typically be fishing at this time of year.

After the tsunami, local officials spotted 41 Great Andamanese — out of 43 in a 2001 Indian census — who had fled the submerged portion of their Strait Island. They also reported seeing 73 Onges — out of 98 in the census — who fled to highland forests in Dugong Creek on the Little Andaman island, or Hut Bay, a government anthropologist said.

However, the fate of the three other tribes won't be known until officials complete a survey of the remote islands this week, he said. The government reconnaissance mission will also assess how the ecosystem — most crucially, the water sources — has been damaged.

'Islands of the cannibals'
Taking surveys of these areas is dangerous work.

The more than 500 islands across a 3,200-square-mile (8,288-square-kilometer) chain in the southern reaches of the Bay of Bengal appear at first glance to be a tropical paradise. But even one of the earliest visitors, Marco Polo, called the atolls "the land of the head hunters." Roman geographer Claudius Ptolemaeus called the Andamans the "islands of the cannibals."

The Sentinelese are fiercely protective of their coral reef-ringed terrain. They used to shoot arrows at government officials when they came ashore and offered gifts of coconuts, fruit and machetes on the beach.

The Jarawas had armed clashes with authorities until the 1990s, killing several police officers.

Samir Acharya, head of the independent Society for Andaman and Nicobar Ecology, said the Jarawas were peaceful until the British, and later the Indians, began encroaching on their territory. Thousands of bow-wielding Jarawas were killed by British bullets in 1859.

Improving relations
Over the past few years, however, relations have improved and some friendly contacts have been made. The government has banned interaction with the tribes, and even taking their pictures is an offense. Many tribe members have visited Port Blair, capital of the Indian-administered territory, and a few Great Andamanese and Onges work in government offices.

Outsiders are forbidden from interacting with the tribesmen because such contact has led in the past to alcoholism and disease among the islanders, and sexual abuse of local women.

"They have often been sexually exploited by influential people — they give the tribal women ... sugar, a gift wrapped in a colored cloth that makes them happy, and that's it," said Roy.

One of the most celebrated stories of a tribal man straddling both worlds is that of En-Mai, a Jarawa teenager brought to Port Blair in 1996 after he broke his leg. Six months later, he looked like any urban kid, in a T-shirt, denim jeans and a reversed baseball cap. But he is back on his island now, having shunned Western ways.

"He took to the ways ... out of a certain novelty," said Acharya. "It's like eating Chinese food on a weekend."

Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

© 2006 MSNBC.com

45 posted on 02/07/2006 7:29:44 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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"Blimey Peachy!... Do you think we should put up more NO FISHING signs?"

48 posted on 02/07/2006 7:39:31 PM PST by Darth Republican
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As a kid in NYC, I was always scared about accidentally stumbling into the turf of the Jackson Whites. :-)


49 posted on 02/07/2006 7:40:58 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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