[bildabare]

And yes, I agree that we should have condos on Neptune by now. At the first manned moon launch, there was a crowd of about a dozen protesters that had signs saying that we should put the money for space exploration into social programs. They were ridiculed back then, but not any longer.

Look at the Russian Topaz nuclear rocket technology- we can't even begin to play with great tech like that without Whoopie Goldberg or Elton John types blowing whistles and halting production. And then there is the super collider being built in Europe, is it? That's shameful.

[MineralMan]

Yeah, social lefties are one of the sources of the anti-space sentiment. The general anti-science sentiment, however, is fueled from another stratum of our society.

Both groups are wrong.

[TomSmedley]

At the first manned moon launch, there was a crowd of about a dozen protesters that had signs saying that we should put the money for space exploration into social programs.

I stood on the beach and watched the Apollo 17 liftoff, not knowing at the time that it was the last. 35 years ago, we owned the moon. Politicians decided they'd rather buy poverty. Supply rose to meet demand, and today, we have more poor people and shattered families than ever before -- but we don't have the moon.