Posted on 02/07/2006 11:44:45 AM PST by iPod Shuffle
Geez, you're pretty cynical. I don't think it would be so easy to pocket the cash unless he himself made the discovery the pants were missing and they weren't on some sort of checklist of things that had to be returned and that he had to sign off on and turn in himself.
The Army reissues gear depending where you are serving. If you had 4 set of arctic fatigue covers you would have been ordered to turn them in, and be reissued desert gear before you left for Iraq. If you failed to turn in or account for the arctic gear it would already have been taken out of your paycheck. The army is not a pick some outfit. The army conducts regular inspections to determine if you have excess gear,if you have unauthorized gear, or if you lack the gear required for the operation. You have a specific amount of gear that is checked off before you go anywhere. There is a specific amount of space allowed for transportation of your gear and that is determine by a check list. You are not allowed to transport the kitchen sink. If you are assigned to Iraq and while there acquire TV's, civilian items, or extra gear, when you are redeployed from Iraq the army will only transport the gear and weight that you came with. You either sell or leave what you acquired there unless you have received permission to send it home at your own expense. In fact when I served and was in basic training as soon as you received army issue you were required to send any civilian gear home. You can have civilian gear when you have a permanent post but it limited. All gear is inspected regularly.
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You are right. I am being cynical. I need to be more positive.
I'm positive he pocketed it.
I wish I had kept those camis as not long after, they were selling for $50 on the open market.
I DID NOT!!.....uh oh
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We are talking about the Infantry here. None of you guys are entitled.
You get the gear "they think you need", not the gear "you really need".
4 sets of army issue or some you brought that would fit in your shaving kit or duffel bag. How many extra suitcases did they allow you to take.
One day at Hohenfels we were out on the rifle range requalifying. It was about 0 degrees Farenheit. I was doing pretty good when all of a sudden recoil (transmitted through the stock to my cheekbone) shattered my frames.
I was stuck there the next three weeks with nothing but a pair of sunglasses I'd brought from Harvey Barracks.
That's because when someone is appointed NCOIC of the CIF, he signs for the inventory. If anything comes up missing from the inventory that is not documented by the proper paperwork the cost for it will come out of his personal paycheck. Should the NCOIC of the CIF pay for something missing or should the person that it was signed out to pay for it? Unless the paperwork is filled out someone will pay for it. The only person getting "screwed over" then would be the NCOIC. All he needs is the proper paperwork and all will be well for both parties. But the Lt didn't want to do that.
That would still require paperwork to document. And who's to say that some future Lt would refuse to sign the paperwork that said he lost his gear because he was critically wounded in combat?
No it wouldn't. They already document degree of injury. Above a certain, just make the write off automatic -- nobody has to sign anything except the discharge papers. In the box where it asks if all military property has been returned, change the question to ask if it was returned OR the soldier was critically (or whatever the defined term is) wounded. Then whoever's filling out the discharge forms can just check "yes" and keep going. Anyone in charge of tracking inventory can check the names attached to missing items against the names of soldiers critically wounded, and list that fact as the final disposition.
The fellows in the States (who were holding the man up) had no responsibility for the inventory in Iraq.
It's ridiculous to believe the Army can't reference its own paperwork on the matter.
Thank you, I got better.
You are uninformed. I was in Air Police security. We had nothing to do with civilians. You are confusing AP security with AP law enforcement. Law enforcement troops wore the white hats, white gloves and braids.
You are confusing the Air Force with the real man's military.
I had the opposite experience after returning from Vietnam. My last CO failed to report 30 days leave I had taken. I was faced with the choice of accepting pay for accumulated leave I had already taken, or having my discharge delayed for weeks while the papers snafu was cleared up.
We figured this one out, yesterday. It was a bogus, military/Bush bashing story drummed up by the AP, as usual. This soldier got his money back. It was HIS FAULT in the first place for deciding to pay up and get out, versus wait for the paperwork to go through. HE didn't follow procedure.
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