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Let's be honest: Multiculturalism can kill a nation
New York Newsday ^ | 02/07/2006 | james Pinkerton

Posted on 02/07/2006 8:43:16 AM PST by SirLinksalot

Let's be honest: Multiculturalism can kill a nation

James P. Pinkerton

The lesson of the Muhammad cartoon controversy is: Multiculturalism between nations is inevitable, but multiculturalism within nations is disastrous.

Protests, many of them violent, have erupted across the world - including Europe, Australia and New Zealand - after the appearance of cartoons depicting the Muslim prophet Muhammad in unflattering ways.

It's time for all of us to recognize that different cultures have different values. For the West, broadly speaking, the highest value is freedom, including freedom of religious expression. But for the Muslim world, the highest value seems to be Islamic piety. To draw such a distinction between West and East is not to endorse cultural relativism; it's simply to take note of cultural reality.

Not everyone thirsts for liberty. Plenty of people around the world, maybe most, thirst instead to restrict liberty. And so, if Muslim crowds can't kill the Muhammad-mocking Danish cartoonists for "blasphemy," they will settle for burning Western embassies, at least for now.

Even the government of Afghanistan - where Danish forces have contributed to Western "democracy-building" - joined in the protests. Afghan President Hamid Karzai, who would not be in power save for Western intervention, added his voice to the chorus: "Any insult to the Holy Prophet is an insult to more than 1 billion Muslims, and an act like this must never be allowed to be repeated."

It should be obvious that our effort to influence Muslim public opinion in a positive way has reached a dead end. That is, we advocate democratization but get Islamization. That process empowers the likes of Hamas in Palestine and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Iran.

Even Turkey, commonly regarded as the most democratic and pro-American Muslim country, is changing its stance.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; culture; immigration; multiculturalism; nation
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To: Baldur
Give me pre-war America any day of the week above the multicultural mess your country has become. Same goes for my own country.

Pre-war includes a lot of Irish, Italian and Chinese, who were at the time of their arrival not always well-accepted.

But I think I get your point. Back then we weren't told we had to immediately embrace the new cultures coming over. Their contributions to American culture in general came slowly over time as a natural result of people interacting, of cultural intermarriage, etc. Preference for the latter is one definition of conservatism.

61 posted on 02/07/2006 10:10:58 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
"Multiculturalism is fine. This country is based on it; Europeans, Asians, Arabs, Africans, Latin Americans all contributed to our culture as it is. "

It is not fine when, like everything else, it is taken to the extreme. Those who came here to be part of our unique culture and become a part of it, learn the language helped the country. When you bring in large numbers of sewer rats who have no desire to become part of our culture but to kill or convert then NONE of them should be allowed to stay. NONE. Period.

More and more we, thanks in great part to Ted "the swimmer" Kennedy, are allowing uncivilized people into this country and excluding or certainly not giving preference to those who can advance this country. We cannot all be Doctors but we also cannot all be sucking on the public tit.

62 posted on 02/07/2006 10:14:15 AM PST by Wurlitzer (The difference between democrats and terrorists is the terrorists don't claim to support the troops)
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To: SirLinksalot

The longest example of multiculturalism is probably Canada (with their Quebec region) and look how well they've gotten along.


63 posted on 02/07/2006 10:16:24 AM PST by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: Wurlitzer
When you bring in large numbers of sewer rats who have no desire to become part of our culture but to kill or convert then NONE of them should be allowed to stay. NONE. Period.

I have no problem with the extension of immigration visas being contingent on showing an integration into American society.

64 posted on 02/07/2006 10:33:25 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: SirLinksalot

The war has begun. Many need to decide which side they're on.


65 posted on 02/07/2006 10:37:03 AM PST by AZLiberty (America is the hope of all men who believe in the principle of freedom and justice. - A. Einstein)
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To: Wurlitzer

It is not fine when, like everything else, it is taken to the extreme. Those who came here to be part of our unique culture and become a part of it, learn the language helped the country. When you bring in large numbers of sewer rats who have no desire to become part of our culture but to kill or convert then NONE of them should be allowed to stay. NONE. Period


Integration into a culture is a naturally occurring phenom. It takes two, sometimes three generations -- as it did for the Irish and Jews.

Today, there is a new wrinkle that didn't exist at the turn of the century -- cheap communication and transportation back to the "old country," which makes those ties more difficult to break.

However, you can see traces of integration among recent immigrants in their children. It is not uncommon to see kids of immigrants wearing hip-hop clothing, listening to pop music and indulging in other American past times.


66 posted on 02/07/2006 10:37:41 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: L98Fiero

E pluribus unum. Good.

Multiculturalism. Bad.


67 posted on 02/07/2006 10:41:55 AM PST by RBroadfoot
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To: durasell
"Integration into a culture is a naturally occurring phenom. It takes two, sometimes three generations -- as it did for the Irish and Jews. "

I trust you don't expect mudslimes to follow this tradition! They do not want to integrate into this culture but destroy and or convert it. They may pretend to integrate but only so we drop our guard.

68 posted on 02/07/2006 10:46:34 AM PST by Wurlitzer (The difference between democrats and terrorists is the terrorists don't claim to support the troops)
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To: SirLinksalot

Islam is a dead end. That's why they're stuck in the ninth century.


69 posted on 02/07/2006 10:47:33 AM PST by hershey
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To: oyez

So Taqquiya serves "the movement" and Muslim rage is just another big spoon for the left to stir the socialist pot. It doesn't matter whether Muslim masses recognize this or not as long as they don't recognize that they will be dispensable in the long run.


70 posted on 02/07/2006 11:33:44 AM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Wurlitzer

Some will and some won't. Certainly, the first generation born here won't be fully integrated into American culture.


71 posted on 02/07/2006 11:35:22 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: antiRepublicrat

I see your point, and I do think it is a matter of linguistic precision. I think we all agree on this.


72 posted on 02/07/2006 11:38:47 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Reactionary

"Multi-culturalism is the antithesis of natural rights and pluralism. It ends in tribalism."


Even my kids see this occurring in suburbia. They refer to nail tribes, the tattoo tribes, the piercing tribes etc when encountering these social clusters.


73 posted on 02/07/2006 11:51:33 AM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: SirLinksalot

"We might not be able to change them, but we can keep them from changing us. "

Sadly, thus far we haven't been able to keep them from changing us...our freedoms are eroding thanks to these pigs.


74 posted on 02/07/2006 12:01:45 PM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: SirLinksalot

It killed the Roman empire. Only then they called it "The Barbarian Invasions".


75 posted on 02/07/2006 12:12:24 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: Domestic Church

dispensable or disposable?


76 posted on 02/07/2006 1:10:56 PM PST by oyez (Appeasement is insanity.)
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To: oyez

Either or both! To dispense those that will still be functional for the movement (work camps and gulags?) to needy sectors and dispose of the rest - if they aren't dispensed into soylent.


77 posted on 02/07/2006 1:37:38 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: SirLinksalot

Busey must be on the outs with Hollywood, the way outs.


78 posted on 02/07/2006 1:38:51 PM PST by junta (It's Jihad stupid! Or why should I tolerate those who hate me?)
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To: SirLinksalot
Let's be honest: Multiculturalism can kill a nation

Not exactly a new concept...

1968 Speech

79 posted on 02/07/2006 2:07:26 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: muawiyah
The only reason you people speak English is that my country was overrun by illegal aliens.

Beats being a third-world country, like everything south of our borders...

80 posted on 02/07/2006 2:09:31 PM PST by Publius6961
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