Posted on 02/06/2006 7:52:43 PM PST by ClassConscious
Edited on 02/07/2006 3:38:17 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Earlier thread by this poster under another name before he was banned, linked above also:
Bye-bye Delay! So long crooks! Goodbye world, I'm gone by ZOT!
Posted on 01/08/2006 8:43:32 PM CST by SoLongCrooks
Yaa, you repukes are not doing so well, huh? Imagine, you repukes control the presidency, both houses of Congress, and appointed 7 of the 9 Supreme Court justices. Yet the Supreme Court thre out sodomy laws in all 50 states and recognized the right of government to seize land for any reason. And you couldn't pass your Social Security changes could you? Sorry, that was your last shot. Come November, we're going to start seeing more Democratic faces in the House. It's the end for you guys. You guys are celebrating when Bush's numbers go *up* to 45%. Then Faux News trumpets this like it's some kind of victory.
I should add I am not a Democrat, I am a communist. And I know one day the workers will control the means of production, and all the capitalist idle class parasites you guys love will be eliminated as a class. But I also recognize, like the CPUSA, sometimes you must enter a front with the liberals for tactical reasons. We had fun sticking it to the liberals with Nader and the Greens in 2000, 2002 and 2004, but this year we're switching gears. Evo Morales in Bolivia, Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, plus all are other Latin American comrades, and the Left Party in Germany, the Socialist Party in Spain pulling the troops out of Iraq. It's a come back for the workers of the world, BIG TIME. Sorry to all you capitalists and sycophants, or Jesus-believing loonies.
Oh yaa - Bye bye Tom Delay. We control nothing in the government, yet we still control so much! Gramsci was right to make a long march through the institutions. Too bad your shot at power amounted to so little! At least you got your estate tax cut...for a few years anyhow.
*******Beginning of new thread by the same Troll**************
The first thing I will say up front - I am a progressive, not a conservative. This message is about the freedom of Free Republic, versus the party line of Democratic Underground.
If you look at Democratic Underground's rules ( http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules_detailed.html ), one is "Democratic Underground may not be used for political, partisan, or advocacy activity by supporters of any political party or candidate other than the Democratic Party or Democratic candidates." Note, this doesn't say Republicans, this doesn't say "progressive candidates", it says Democratic candidates, period. Now let's compare this to Free Republic's posting guidelines ( http://www.freerepublic.com/help.htm ) - "Broadly stated, the goals of this site are to further conservatism, expose political corruption, and recover a truly constitutional form of government." No mention of the Republican Party. No jihad against you if you make up your mind to vote for Pertouka. No "party line" from the Republican leadership. Significantly, even though DU and FR are compared often, that is a (unofficial) Democratic Party site, you are a conservative site.
I just made two posts saying positive things about the Green party, talking about how people like Clinton and Kerry do not represent working class people and so forth. This was after 200+ posts there by me on other topics. Both of my threads were locked and I was directed to the above mentioned rules, which say those who don't follow the Democratic Party line are not welcome. I then posted a thread saying Free Republic had more freedom of expression than Democratic Underground, and that that was a shame. That was erased.
While my discussion of this was banned on DU, I don't think it will be banned here. I can't believe I am more free to discuss my support of the Greens, or talk about freedom of political discussion on Free Republic than Democratic Underground. And as I said before, the fact that you are a conservative site, not a official or unofficial Republican Party site is probably due to this. The party that runs the White House, Congress and 7 of 9 Supreme Court seats allows people to support Pertouka over Bush on its main political board. The main discussion board for people of the progressive movement declares all must follow the Democratic Party line, and any other discussion is locked and erased. I've even seen people banned before.
This is not going to make me a conservative or Republican. I am a working class person and hate capitalists. Note, I hate capitalists, not conservatives. I know plenty of conservatives, but am not a regular at the mansions of wealthy heirs. Anyhow, my point is this will not make me like capitalism any more, but I am very fed up with the Democrats and places like DU. They restrict freedom, make people follow a party line - and lose. You allow discussion, allow people to choose between Pertouka, Bush and whatnot - and win. Very sad.
I should close this by saying I agree with nothing the Republicans or conservatives are for - except one thing. I am a complete supporter of the Second Amendment. I have been on the left for a long time and the scariest people around are the gun control people. Not the soccer moms who the leaders of gun control people try to appeal to, but the leaders themselves, the people who want more and more gun control. I have heard people like this talk about how they are scared that people up in Appalachia and in the South have so many guns. I am always puzzled like this. For myself, I feel pretty SAFE knowing people in Appalachia, the South and so forth have guns. Why would someone be scared that the working people in rural areas have rifles, shotguns and so forth? The people who say this usually aren't working class people, they are usually liberal yuppie types. So all you second amendment supporters - you're more right than you know, if you heard how these people talk, you'd be more freaked out by all this gun control stuff than you probably already are. The gun control people are the creepiest, scariest people on the left and in the Democratic party. Meaning not the soccer moms and so forth they try to appeal to, but the people masterminding the fight on that. In fact, if you look at DU polls - many many DUers are more pro-2nd amendment than pro-gun control. So who are these gun control people? So keep fighting on this, at least one party supports the 2nd Amendment. Other than this, I don't agree with conservatives or Republicans on anything, especially in terms of the working class. Hopefully this post will shame some DU admin into allowing more freedom of expression for progressives there. You guys can discuss problems in the conservative movement while we can't - we're only allowed to praise the Democratic party, otherwise, hit the road. I hope I shame some DU admin into making changes with this, but I doubt I will.
Just as a side bar, have you ever get a job from a working class person, or a poor person for that matter?.
Your highly touted Micheal A. Perutka seems to me like the mirror image of Khomeini sans Islam, just add the cannons of Christianity.
We are a Nation founded with Christian believes in a secular type of federal Government who does not endorse, or respect an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; (see Amendment 1).
As for been a "Conservative Communist" that is a stretch I never walked...let me think about it!
BTW, about the gun issue.
Watching Rosie O'Donnell blame me for Columbine (15 miles from my home) because I own a firearm is what began my conservative journey. I had no interest in politics until that happened.
So, THANKS, ROSIE!
That's happened to me in the past...that's why I remember it now :)
I have not read Road to Serfdom but I have been told to read that by the more well-read conservatives I know. I am very interested in all economic writers, I will be reading some Milton Friedman books as well.
Obviously, I have read a lot of Paul Krugman, and I like a lot of what he sees, but one flaw of his I've noticed is he tends to have opinions on things he doesn't really know about. I often think he should stick to giving opinions on his expertise, currency crises and leave his opinions on matters he knows less of off the pages of the NY Times.
I will read Road to Serfdom, you're not the first to suggest it. One question - you have talked about government and economics. What do you think about rank-and-file leaning unions striking, what's your view on that? I'm curious since you said you were a shop steward.
Yeah, but it's happened to me as well. And I DIDN'T remember it.
Being inflicted with CRS is a real pain at times.
You need to keep in mind that the stock market is not what defines "capitalism". The stock market is merely legal gambling on corporate horse races.
"Capitalism" is the freedom to open up your own Mom and Pop business without having the Government arrest you and the freedom to succeed or fail in your own business.
Thank you, jellybean....I'll make sure to remember that from now on.
John Taylor Gatto's articles and books are a good place to get some background on how public schools developed. Here is a link to his online history of education in the US.
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/underground/toc1.htm
Hilarious! The big, bad CAPITALIST market spanked you; so you went commie? I bet Peter and Warren had to twist your arm the whole way. Earnings on a non-existant P/E, and who-the-heck-needs-dividends. And how about those non-convertable options? You obviously did not go on margin much, sounds like a trustie. You know, trust-fund baby out to show the old folks that Global Crossing and the European funny-money front companies were going to generate 300% ROI's. This is freakin RICH! I am proud to have shorted some of you guys to ZERO!
The market began to tank in MARCH of 2000; NOT in April!
The DEMS allowed the BUBBLE and they actually burst it, when BIG TIME DEM DONERS, who happened to be the rivals of MICROSOFT, got Gore to help them try to bring Gates to his knees, in court. Gates had been more or less apolitical, until that time; he hadn't greased the palms of the Clinton mafia, you see, so they were more than happy to go after him.
People who went Commie during the GREAT DEPRESSION were already left leaners, were at the bottom of the barrel, unlike you, and there is really no comparison between your stocks going down and what happened 60+ years prior to that; NONE!
Did a mean old Capitalist hold a gun to your head and make you buy the stocks you did? Well, did he? You made your own choices and then, when they didn't work out as you thought they would, you blame unknown others! Yep, you ARE a lefty to the core of your being!
Warren Buffet is a faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar LEFTY! He's no "god" and while some sing his praises, it's for the same reason you became a moronic GREENIE WEENIE; they made some money!
Oh yes and here's a clue, so you don't have to buy one :THE MARKET GOES UP, THE MARKET GOES DOWN, AND SOMETIMES IT EVEN GOES SIDEWAYS.
Ralph Nader is a fraud! He's a multimillionaire, who plays at looking poor and being "for the little guy". In reality, he owns a posh co-op, has a TON of money in the market, and he made his name, by a stealth, fraud, and lies! The car he went after, had been out of production for something like two years and IIRC, the lemons had been recalled. And THAT is exactly what his MO has been ever since.
You now work on the Street and come here and tell us that you HATE CAPITALISTS? You're a moron and a hypocrite; not to mention not nearly as "intellectual" as some have given you credit for being.
Don Luskin runs a blog that, among other things, specializes in Krugman roasts. Enjoy.
http://www.poorandstupid.com/chronicle.asp
The ferret-like Krugman is a socialist.
Let's all sing along;)
Okay... YOU keep him and both of you go off to DU!
I was a big-time stock investor!"
So, you hate capitolists because you didn't become stinking rich as one?
The n00b is a self avowed COMMIE; for crying out loud.
I was working for dot-coms
I was a lucky one who managed to jump from dot coms to Wall Street.
And you hate capitalists? Well look in the mirror hypocrite, I can see why your a watermelon, oh so much guilt. Liberalism IS a mental disease.
You're welcome. :)
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