LIVE THREAD: SJC hearing on the NSA surveilance program - C-span 1; 9:30 am EST

[ken5050]

Good Monday morning, once again, fellow political jinkies. The NFL season may be over, but the political season inside the Beltway is 24/7/365. So join us, if you can, as those wacky Dems on the Senate Judiciary committee reprise their pitiful efforts to once again smear President Bush and score political points..

[daybreakcoming]

Oh well, Leahy is back and "curious" again. Yep I just bet he is.

[sageb1]

"Jack Bauer changed that to 10. You will be watching Jack Bauer kill terrorists at 8. ;o)"

Oh geez...it's Monday, isn't it? Thanks for the "24" reminder.

[Peach]

Leahy: When did the Bush admin. come to the conclusion that the authorization of force against AQ permitted warrantless wiretapping within the US.

Gonzales: The authorization of this program began subsequent to the authorization to use force. And prior to the Patriot Act.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

MEMO TO THE LEFT: My first and most basic right is not to be killed by jihadists.

Only if your Democratic Senator approves it or the Supreme court....LOL!

[tiredoflaundry]

is s/b in

[Arizona Carolyn]

I say we start an email campaign to Frist to bring this thing to a floor vote.

[Peach]

Leahy: So what you call the foreign terrorist act, I'm going to call the breaking of the FISA Act.

POS

[Mo1]

I think Brownback is in the same camp as Graham is this matter.

Fine .. vote it out of law and Go on record

[mystery-ak]

phone calls work better

[conservativebabe]

The only area of valid concern I have heard today with regard to the powers of the president is where the authority ends. Having said that though, these @ssclowns really believe that the administration wants to pillage against innocent people.

They are truly delusional.

[Lovergirl]

I'm trying to get things done, cuz I WON'T miss "24" for anyone or anything. LOL!

[Cementjungle]

The eagle has pooped on the roof. That will confuse the heck out of the spies listening.

This one?

I snapped this photo yesterday in my neighbor's tree!

[pepperhead]

I think you are safe with the pepperoni...just don't ask for *black olives*...that's the key words....

I am in trouble then, I love black olives.

There coming to take me away, ha ha, ho ho, he he............

[Peach]

Gonzales: That's an operational detail. I'm here to talk about legal anlysis.

Leahy: When did you make the determination?

Gonzales: From the outset, ... Leahy interrupts.

[Cboldt]

I have to think thorough this point, but Gonzales basically just said that he can't put a warrant request together, regaredless of the time allowed, because the surveillance doesn't satisfy the requirements for obtaining a warrant.

Pss't - Gonzales -- amend FISA by putting terrorist organizations, recited in 1801(a)(4), as one of the entities that does not require a warrant under 50 USC 1802(a).

1802 (a) (1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that--
(A) the electronic surveillance is solely directed at--
(i) the acquisition of the contents of communications transmitted by means of communications used exclusively between or among foreign powers, as defined in section 1801 (a)(1), (2), or (3) [insert "(4)" here] of this title

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1801 As used in this subchapter:
(a) "Foreign power" means--
(1) a foreign government or any component thereof, whether or not recognized by the United States;
(2) a faction of a foreign nation or nations, not substantially composed of United States persons;
(3) an entity that is openly acknowledged by a foreign government or governments to be directed and controlled by such foreign government or governments;
(4) a group engaged in international terrorism or activities in preparation therefor;
(5) a foreign-based political organization, not substantially composed of United States persons; or
(6) an entity that is directed and controlled by a foreign government or governments.

[daybreakcoming]

magnificent picture - lucky you

[pepperhead]

Seriously, either he is some paranoid loon, or a tool of the left.

Or both.

[penelopesire]

I'll do it tonight. I gotta go run some errands. Thanks Peach and All for the great thread and keeping us all up to date on the latest dem scams...lol!