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Why can't Muslims take a joke?
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HB07Ak02.html ^ | Spengler

Posted on 02/06/2006 4:55:38 AM PST by mal

Religious humor has become commonplace in the secular West, but it came with a price.

More than any people on Earth, the Danes should know the terrible price of religious humor, for the first great Christian humorist arose from their dour midst as if by immaculate conception. "Humor is intrinsic to Christianity," wrote Soren Kierkegaard, because "truth is hidden in mystery". But Kierkegaard the humorist was sent to the Danes after the Enlightenment had laid waste to Christianity, that is, after the French revolutionary army had conquered traditional Europe. He wielded humor out of desperation, after Denmark already had started down its long slide toward secularism.

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KEYWORDS: islam; jihad; muslims; spengler
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1 posted on 02/06/2006 4:55:40 AM PST by mal
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To: mal
The whole purpose of Islam is to have a Jihad. No matter what is done, there is always a reason for there to be a Jihad.
2 posted on 02/06/2006 4:57:44 AM PST by Always Right
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Everything I have found about The War of the 12 Cartoons ( links, blogs, quips, quotes, aggravating pictures ) is located here- click the Pic, and scroll backwards:


3 posted on 02/06/2006 4:58:59 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: mal
It takes a sophisticated mind to understand satire. The mass of Muslims are ignorant masses that can be stirred up like a herd of spooky cattle.

We live in a world where most human beings are quick to envy. Muslim hatred of the West is based on envy.

I once had a pet raccoon who would wet everything before eating it. He would put bread into his water pan and look in wordier when the bread dissolved. It's the same with primitive people who invader a civilized land. After a while they wound where everything they envied had gone. They do not understand that a civilization bust continually advance and rebuild to endure.

Look at South Africa, once the most civilized and prosperous nation in Africa. Blacks now dominate and rule South Africa, and it has gone to pot.

Look as Zimbabwe. Blacks took over the food production of the country and now they are starving. Primitive people believe things happen because of some natural element. It does not. It takes constant human achievement.
4 posted on 02/06/2006 5:09:59 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: mal
I think muslims can take a joke and are, as a group, really funny.

One of our major networks should create a situation comedy about your typical muslim family. The father, Mohammed, is outside primping the camel, while inside Ma is saying to a neighbor, "Our kids are blowing up so quickly!"

There could be a segment about their imam who is a homosexual and chases after little boys in a dusty mosque, but no, drop that idea. Many of them do chase after little boys.

5 posted on 02/06/2006 5:17:39 AM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: mal
"Humor is intrinsic to Christianity," wrote Soren Kierkegaard, because "truth is hidden in mystery". But Kierkegaard the humorist was sent to the Danes after the Enlightenment had laid waste to Christianity . . .

I can hardly imagine Kierkegaard, that Melancholy Dane, swapping jokes or drawing caricatures of Christ.  His ironic sense of humor was a bit more incisively subtle, I would think.

Of course, I could be wrong.

6 posted on 02/06/2006 5:32:27 AM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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Q. How many Muslims does it take to change a light bulb?

A. That's *NOT* funny! For that I will cut your head off!!!!


7 posted on 02/06/2006 5:34:35 AM PST by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: mal

In this case, they just needed any excuse to riot. But, personally...I get upset when the Catholics are made fun of in any way....art, cartoons.... At the same time, I wouldn't act like a complete ignorant wild animal and burn buildings down over it.


8 posted on 02/06/2006 5:34:46 AM PST by Fawn
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9 posted on 02/06/2006 5:37:25 AM PST by montag813
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To: No Truce With Kings

Q: What did Mohammed say to the little boy with the camel?

A: One hump, or two?


10 posted on 02/06/2006 5:37:39 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: mal

Your Religion is what your Religion does.


11 posted on 02/06/2006 5:39:19 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: No Truce With Kings

Q. How many Muslims does it take to change a light bulb?

A: None, they sit in the dark and blame the Jews.


12 posted on 02/06/2006 5:40:09 AM PST by AZLiberty (America is the hope of all men who believe in the principle of freedom and justice. - A. Einstein)
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To: R.W.Ratikal
The Muslim world has not benefited from "the enlightenment." That is Bernard Lewis' theory. I agree with him. I lived in Saudi Arabia for 5 years in the 80s. I got to know many Muslims of many nationalities. Most of the ones that I knew were more disposed toward the USA and West. Still, their live revolved much more around Islam that ours did around Christianity. First, it is incomprehensible to most Americans that they would have to pray five times a day. I am lucky to go to church once a month. Second, Islam does influence their politics, while in the USA politics and religion are considered separate. Third, their culture is more embedded with Islamic concepts.
Islam can be tolerant of other faiths, particularly in countries outside the Middle East (Morocco, Turkey, Indonesia), however, Muslim clerics have tremendous political weight.
It is wrong to compare the Middle East to Southern Africa. The Middle East at one time had the most advanced civilizations in the world. Until the Mongul invasion in the 13th Century, Islam was more advanced than Europe. Half of the Muslim world was destroyed by the Monguls, and the other half never quite recovered.

http://www.google.com/search?q=mongul+invasion&hl=en&lr=&start=20&sa=N
13 posted on 02/06/2006 5:47:01 AM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: mal

mooselimbs can't take a joke because mooselimbs know that if their vile beliefs are viewed with an open mind those in the religion of mohammed (may pig dung be upon him) will leave, or else the believers of mohammed (may pig dung be upon him) really believe their vile religion and in such a case are truly fanatics and deserve the condemnation of / by the world.


14 posted on 02/06/2006 5:52:22 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: mal

Most Christians wouldn't appreciate most jokes about Jesus, either; The difference is that they'll pray for the offender rather than riot and call for his head.


15 posted on 02/06/2006 5:53:02 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
Plenty of serious Christians pray five times a day or more. I don't think a life of prayer is incomprehensible to Americans.

Additionally, Islam was for a long time wealthier and more populous than Europe - but it was never more advanced technologically.

That's a leftist myth.

16 posted on 02/06/2006 5:56:18 AM PST by wideawake
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To: mal

By the way does anyone here know who "Spengler" is? What is his background? Has he published any books or collections of essays?


17 posted on 02/06/2006 6:10:12 AM PST by OkieDokie1000
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To: mal

Thank you, good article.


18 posted on 02/06/2006 6:12:11 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
Half of the Muslim world was destroyed by the Monguls, and the other half never quite recovered.

Excellent point. Same thing would have happened to Europe, except that it was too far away and poor to interest the Mongols much. And they were too busy fighting Muslims in much of their territory.

By comparison to the Mongol invasions, the Crusades, which occurred about the same time and today seem so important to both Muslims and Christians, were a minor irritation in a peripheral part of the Muslim world.

19 posted on 02/06/2006 6:15:21 AM PST by Restorer
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To: OkieDokie1000

A number of his essays are here (they look tempting):

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/others/spengler.html


20 posted on 02/06/2006 6:16:50 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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