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Smokers face ban at home if nurse calls
The Observer Guardian(UK) ^ | 2/5/06 | Gaby Hinsliff

Posted on 02/05/2006 7:03:58 PM PST by elkfersupper

Hundreds of thousands of smokers will be banned from lighting up in their own homes when nurses or other health workers visit them, under controversial new rules drawn up by the nurses' professional body. The move dramatically widens the scope of the public clampdown on passive smoking - taking it from the workplace or the pub into the living room. It will trigger fresh debate over the nature of personal freedom versus public health.

(Excerpt) Read more at observer.guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: nannystate; pufflist; smoking; smokingbans; tobacco; warontobacco
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1 posted on 02/05/2006 7:04:01 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: SheLion; Gabz

Yet another story ping.


2 posted on 02/05/2006 7:05:06 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

Nurse takes my cigarette...

From my cold dead fingers


3 posted on 02/05/2006 7:06:05 PM PST by Number57 (Badly worded, but heartfelt)
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To: elkfersupper
What about homos with AIDS passing that around?

Any punishment for that?

They call it "bug chasing". It's supposed to be a real high to have anal sex with another guy that has AIDS with the hope that you'll get AIDS too. Is that okay with them?
4 posted on 02/05/2006 7:08:25 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: Number57

5 posted on 02/05/2006 7:13:51 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: nmh

Apparently, people don't care about real health threats (pssst....that's because the smoking bans have nothing to do with public health---shhhh!).


6 posted on 02/05/2006 7:16:53 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: nmh

You said, part:What about homos with AIDS passing that around?
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My guess is that anal sex with the nurses sent to your home is prohibited. I could be wrong.

I support smokers' rights, even though I am not one. But couldn't a smoker tough it out while the nurse is there? Is the addiction that strong? Yes, I know it is your home, but can't you hold out long enough to have the nurse treat you, then puff away afterwards?

That being said, how's about pairing up smoking nurses with smoking patients and letting them both smoke all they want?

It never ceases to amaze me how many smoking issues get raised on the FR threads.


7 posted on 02/05/2006 7:18:34 PM PST by NCLaw441
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To: elkfersupper

"It will trigger fresh debate over the nature of personal freedom versus public health.""

what debate? Westminster can dictate your privleges and can revoke them at will.


8 posted on 02/05/2006 7:24:36 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: NCLaw441
It never ceases to amaze me how many smoking issues get raised on the FR threads.

And the reason is.....it's the most successful, widespread, well-financed, hysteria-driven attack on personal freedom and private property rights ever seen in this country (except possibly for MADD's agenda), and this is a conservative news forum.

9 posted on 02/05/2006 7:24:40 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: NCLaw441

"I support smokers' rights, even though I am not one. But couldn't a smoker tough it out while the nurse is there? Is the addiction that strong? Yes, I know it is your home, but can't you hold out long enough to have the nurse treat you, then puff away afterwards?"

The issue is that government never stops with a small move. Incrementalism is real and certain a part of this ongoing war on smoking.

Do you think they will stop with this and not try to expand it at some point? They have yet to stop on their other gains.


10 posted on 02/05/2006 7:26:45 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Number57

Nurse takes my cigarette...

From my cold dead fingers



thank you charlton.....


11 posted on 02/05/2006 7:29:08 PM PST by ronnied (we are the only animals that bare our teeth in greeting...)
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To: NCLaw441

Well now you're just being reasonable.

Jerk. ;)


12 posted on 02/05/2006 7:33:49 PM PST by ricardobaltazar
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To: WoofDog123

I understand the slippery slope argument, but I am not sure it applies here. This is a little different than the smoking in restaurants issue, where I believe the owner should determine if smoking is to be allowed or not, and then customers come or they don't. The nurses are required to go to these homes. What is apparently asked is that smokers not smoke while the nurses are there. Before they come or after they go, no problem. Seems pretty reasonable to me, and in keeping with most smokers' manners anyway. Alternatively, you could maintain your privacy rights and ask the nurses not to come to your home. I support freedom and property rights, but this is different, it seems to me.


13 posted on 02/05/2006 7:34:59 PM PST by NCLaw441
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To: elkfersupper

14 posted on 02/05/2006 7:35:20 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: ricardobaltazar

You said: Well now you're just being reasonable.

Jerk. ;)

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Ouch! Why the names? Just stating my point of view....


15 posted on 02/05/2006 7:36:44 PM PST by NCLaw441
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To: NCLaw441

I was joking, thus the wink.


16 posted on 02/05/2006 7:37:47 PM PST by ricardobaltazar
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To: NCLaw441
Nope, smokers don't need to "tough it out" when a nurse comes to the home. The nurse needs to tough it out while in another person's home. How much damage could a visit to a home cause a nurse? I mean assuming that 2nd hand smoke actually harmed people, which it dosen't. If they don't want to breath the air in a patient's house then they should wear a respirator.

Hopefully they will never try to pass this BS in the US.

17 posted on 02/05/2006 7:39:29 PM PST by calex59 (seeing the light shouldn't make you go blind)
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To: ricardobaltazar

Sorry.


18 posted on 02/05/2006 7:40:05 PM PST by NCLaw441
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To: SheLion; Gabz

Ping!


19 posted on 02/05/2006 7:40:49 PM PST by TAdams8591 (The first amendment does NOT protect vulgar and obscene speech.)
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To: elkfersupper
No home nurse should normally be forced to enter what he/she considers a dangerous environment. Bad dogs come to mind. That's a moral/ethical/practical decision.

It's no business of the government.

20 posted on 02/05/2006 7:43:41 PM PST by boojumsnark (Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.)
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