Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 5 February 2006

Various big media television networks ^ | 5 February 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, February 5th, 2006

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Gen. Michael Hayden, the principal deputy director of national intelligence; House Majority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Boehner; Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., and Jeff Sessions, R-Ala.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Gen. Michael Hayden; Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif.; Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif.; Afghan President Hamid Karzai; former interim Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi; Prince Turki Al-Faisal, Saudi ambassador to the United States; Pittsburgh Mayor Bob O'Connor; Seattle Mayor Greg Nickels.

[tcrlaf]

bump!

[snugs]

The correct freeper name you are looking for is

JohnHuang2

[A.Hun]

What comes up most frequently is the highway bill and the Medicare prescription bill.

They both were hyped to the max and did make us look bad.

But I believe that politically they were unavoidable. The Congress justifies its existence by routing money to their constituents, the highway bill was just a egregious example. Bush had to have a prescription plan to be elected.

[Txsleuth]

You know...if Specter keeps up this attitude, he will sound more and more like whiney dems that are throwing hissy fits all of the time because they aren't getting enough ATTENTION...

I get the feeling that Specter's take is from the perspective that Bush isn't giving CONGRESS enough say in what he does...which I guarantee will NOT be a winner politically, if he acts like the dems did in the Alito hearings...

I think Americans are SICK of baby tantrums and whining from politicians while our men and women (some just in their teens and twenties)...are fighting and dying for us everyday and NOT throwing tantrums.

In fact, if they did throw a tantrum, they would be severly punished probably...

Sessions is on the Judiciary Committee...and I am praying that he will smack some of this "pity party" attitude back into Specter and the dems' faces!!


I heard last night somewhere, that even ORRIN HATCH is against Bush on this...do you know if this is true?

[MNJohnnie]

But anyone who tries and tell you that spending isn't a problem with real people is living in dreamland

That's right. Personal feelings about an issue are real, all the objective observable data is "dreamland".

Simply amazing how willing the "real Conservatives" are to continually lie to themselves rather then confront an unpleasant truth. The bulk of the voters do NOT care about Spending. Federal Spending matters to a faction in the Republican Base, it does NOT register as an issue with the vast mass of voters. You can kid yourself all you want that YOUR one pet issue is THE issue but you will win no elections that way. Winning elections requires building coalitions or different intrests to cooperate

[rodguy911]

Excellent post here, right to the point and so accurate! One part I liked;
"Bush hate is the only motivator for Democrats"
outstanding.

[Seattle Conservative]

Thanks snugs. I was thinking I had seen John Huang on posts- had a space and that's probably why it wasn't coming up. Pinging him.

BTW - here is 1 post on that thread LOL!:

Re: debating. About 165 years ago one Nicholas Gogol came up with the winning strategy: "Ivan Ivanovich! One needs to have eaten a lot of beans before talking to you." This technical advice is to be taken to heart. Garlic and jalapenos could also help, together with stale beer.

2 posted on 02/05/2006 10:07:51 AM PST by GSlob

[fedupjohn]

That was me that posted his name wrong originally.. thanks for the help

[snugs]

What gets me is that more and more they go on about domestic spying surely do they not think that the average American will start questioning that as well.

If there is someone in the US talking to someone else in the US and there are suspicions of terrorist involvement by one party surely that it something to be looked at or rather listened to.

It strikes me whichever or whatever they say they are going to loose the argument.

[Peach]

I know the president ran on the prescription bill; I think most people thought, however, that it would be targeted toward those who didn't have prescription coverage.

What has happened is that the bill included what amounts to bribery -- paying corporations to continue covering their retirees. When the number crunchers ran the numbers, they decided that it was cheaper to drop their retiree prescription plans and let the feds cover it. Even the bribery didn't cover expenses.

As a result, a lot of my parent's retired friends and including my parents have received letters from their companies that their coverage is dropped. So now they have to join the fed's program. And it's a costly program for those who had coverage. Maybe not costly for those who had nothing. But definitely going to cost a lot of retirees thousands of dollars they weren't paying before.

And this has angered them that the party they've voted for their entire lives is going to cost them $$ on a fixed income.

[Dolphy]

Not that I think the spending issue will move Republicans toward voting for Democrats, but it might not move them at all to go out and actually vote. We need those broken glass Republicans again!

Fiscal conservatism is going to have to emerge as a winning issue then because I don't think it's responsible for the turnout that elected Bush or added to the Republican majorities.

[Peach]

Are you calling me a liar? Are you calling Mo1 a liar?

Comfort yourself all you wish that people aren't upset at the spending. You obviously haven't been reading the many articles written by good staunch conservatives who are equally upset.

[rodguy911]

Excellent post here samantha.
"he(Boehner) almost reminds me of a shrink talking to a dumb,deranged patient when he is talking to russert"
ROFL

[Peach]

Spending had little to do with Bush being elected because, much as we disliked Clinton, he wasn't a terribly big spender and he actually helped his base when he signed the welfare reform bill.

But we are now in an era where we have to spend a lot of money on the military, people are seeing states paying for college tuition for illegal immigrants, etc., and it's making a lot of people who are following the rules and are conservative quite angry that nothing has been done to reign in spending.

[rodguy911]

Mabye he go married to serpent head!

[Freee-dame]

He's very viable(McCain) until the msm dumps him which they will.

as soon as he had the nomination. His millions in free front page campaign articles in the NYT and WaPo would be over. They would start printing so much negative about him that his career would be over. He is lucky he didn't get the nomination in 2000. He has stayed their darling.

[daisyscarlett]

I'm going to Davidson College this Tuesday to hear Bill Kristol speak. If there is a Q&A session, do any of you have a question you'd like for me to ask him?

After Bush announced that Alito was his choice for the SC, Kristol said that he was okay with that but he was hoping for Michael Luttig. I wonder if he still feels that way after the outstanding performance by Alito during the process.

Also, and this is "silly", but I would like to know how tall (or short) Mr. Kristol is. I saw a photo of him standing next to Fred Barnes and either Barnes is very tall or Kristol is really, really short.

[MNJohnnie]

There is a logical fallacy called Anecdotal Evidence. It is the habit of people who observe data they want to believe and extrapolate based on that event that "All" people think that way because THEY what the data to be read that way. You need waste no time on it. Once people convince themselves that the world is flat because they want it to be flat, no amount of objective data will convince them otherwise. The absurdity of suggesting that a nation of 300 million thinks A because the 50 or so people one personally interact with think that way is so obviously absurd yet you see it in Politics all the time.

It's the same sort of emotive hysteria that convinces people that Judges position on Abortion should be their sold determining qualification for Confirmation or that the Parties position on Immigration will cost them seats in the legislature because it does not match 100% their viewpoint.

Small minds simply lack the sophistication to grasp larger concepts that they find personally unpalatable no matter how hard you pound reality on them.

[snugs]

If it is a Federal program to cover prescription costs how is this going to cost them I do not understand or am I not getting what the prescription bill is.

I must admit that is one thing I do agree with in the UK regarding our NHS that all over 60 get free medication. I firmly believe that the retired generation have paid enough in taxes and also in supporting the country's economy and that is one State benefit I am totally behind. As for the rest of the NHS I would disband and put in place so form of compulsory private insurance. After all you have to insure your car and in many cases to get a mortgage your life so why not your health care.

[Peach]

There are also those people who stick their heads in the sand and don't read enough or talk to anyone outside FR enough.

Have you not read or heard about how upset people are about the Medicare prescription plan? Name me ONE conservative in the media who thought it was a good idea.

Then go find anyone in real life who HAD insurance who thought it was a good idea.

But go ahead and call Mo1 and me liars because people we know in real life don't like the spending. Your post is obnoxious in the extreme and doesn't surprise me in the least.