Posted on 02/04/2006 4:36:14 PM PST by leadpenny
""Yes, I was a sleaze but once in the White House I will change"
How do you know he hasn't already changed. Please heed what Jesus said
"Those without sin, cast the first stone".
Also what the Apostle Paul said
"Judge not that ye be not judged"
As Christians(I assume you are) you should really heed the above two statements. After all, Jesus commands it.
"You are looking at Rudy and seeing what you want to see."
You are looking Rudy and pretending you are God. You don't know with 100% assuredness that he hasn't repented. Of course, you've never sinned so you have nothing to worry about(sarcasm).
Are you saying that Christians should just ignore the moral character of a political candidate, ignore the facts, and magically imagine that he has somehow 'changed' ? Is that grownup thinking ?
You sound like a silly girl taking back her cheating, abusive boyfriend.
"Yes, I know. But maybe he'll change".
And "judge not" doesn't mean that Christians aren't supposed to notice or call attention to sin, much as secularists wish it did. John the Baptist lost his head for 'judging' Herod's incestuous marriage. Holy men of God are continually calling attention to sin in political leaders throughout the Bible.
"Are you saying that Christians should just ignore the moral character of a political candidate, ignore the facts, and magically imagine that he has somehow 'changed"
The entire principle of salvation is that people can and do change. Please go reread the Cruxification. One of the criminals that was on one of the crosses beside Jesus repented and changed right there. People can and do change and they do that through the salvation given by Jesus Christ. If you don't believe that and believe people are either born righteous and others unrighteous and they stay that way their entire lives then you don't believe or understand the most basic and important tenet of Christianity.
Heheh....beautiful.....love it, Sam.
And don't forget Rudy's undisguised worship of liberals. Rudy appointed two of Liberal Party head Ray Harding's sons to top jobs in his administration.
Disgustingly, Rudy looked the other way when perverted psycho child molester Russell Harding was looting and stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars (that we know of) as the NYC Housing Development Corp head. Greedy lowlife perv Harding even gave himself raises and benefits that were not in his pay package.
Harding was caught online enjoying kiddie porn web sites and he took gay vacations on the taxpayers dime, paying for his "buff buddies" trips with tax funds.
When the issue became public, Rudy was still pandering to the Hardings, fellating the liberals, saying " I feel bad for the Harding family."
Rudy had nothing to say to law-abiding taxpayers who got ripped off by this perverted criminal.
Harding is now in jail.
That statement leaps out atcha......it evidences Rudy's elitist, unmitigated contempt for Values Voters, and his constant rubbing salt in the wounds of pro-life Christians.
Never in a million years can Rudy adequately explain to law-abiding Ameircans, his actions vis a vis perverted lowlife child molester Russell Harding that exposes Rudy's undisguised worship of liberals.
As I posted earlier, Rudy appointed two of Liberal Party head Ray Harding's sons to top jobs in his administration.
Disgustingly, Rudy looked the other way when perverted psycho child molester Russell Harding was looting and stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars (that we know of) as the NYC Housing Development Corp head. Greedy lowlife perv Harding even gave himself raises and benefits that were not in his pay package.
Harding was caught online enjoying kiddie porn web sites and he took gay vacations on the taxpayers dime, paying for his "buff buddies" trips with tax funds.
When the issue became public, Rudy was still pandering to the Hardings, fellating the liberals, saying " I feel bad for the Harding family."
Rudy had nothing to say to law-abiding taxpayers who got ripped off by this perverted criminal.
Harding is now in jail.
MY GOP REPLY: The entire principle of salvation is that people can and do change.
Sure wrongdoers can change through Christ .........but nowhere did Jesus say we have to elect these people to public office.
"Sure wrongdoers can change through Christ .........but nowhere did Jesus say we have to elect these people to public office."
You can vote for or against whoever you want for what reason who want. However, the notion that we should elect people who have not committed wrongs in the past if flawed. You see, EVERYONE has sinned and thus committed wrongs in their lives. If we use your litmus test that we can't elect "wrongdoers" to office then NOBODY is qualified for office. Man, I'm on a role today making these judgmental Christians look bad.
"I think that Romney is going to be the most formidable candidate"
You really think a Mormon can be elected POTUS?
I don't think so.
THAT'S your evidence he's going to appoint constructionist judges?
You're more easily bought than I am.
Rudy is the most formidable opponent for any Democrat.
Different issues weigh differently in each election.
If terrorism is still on the front burner, and the riots and rampage over the cartoons tell me this is the BIG STORY for the next five years, Rudy is the man.
He is brilliant, socially conservative on most issues, with the guts to actually back it up. Have you forgotten his witholding funds froim the Brooklyn Museum over the Madonna w. doo-doo?
He is personally courageous and does what is right. What other public official had the courage to throw Arafat out of Lincoln Center and restrict his movements in the city?
Think back to his 2004 speech at the RNC.
Rudy's personal life has never been an issue.
Donna Hanover is about as despised as you can be. After the things she pulled when Rudy was Mayor, refusing to appear with him, refusing to take his name, refusing to campaign for him, manipulating her children against him, refusing to vacate Gracie Mansion after they separated...she wanted to stay on and get the perks.
This woman is a piece of work. No one took her side in the split.
Yup, starting with a national-level "Sullivan Law".
Hey, it worked to keep NYC safe, right?
Oh, right. It didn't. Oh well, he's not only pro-abortion, but he's pro-gun-control too, so there's no reason to try to get him to "compromise his principles". I mean, so what if anywhere West of the Hudson he'd be flagged a a Liberal Democrat (other than for his Happy-R Elephant Badge). I am confident that the GOP will be able to once again deliver the same kind of stunning victory it delivered in the Dole-Clinton race.
Can you feel the excitement in the Heartland?
No?
No? You can't?
You must be, um, "feeling around the wrong places".
Try feeling around the local Democratic Party HQ and see what kind of reading you get. I'm betting on Excitement++
He's also got a giant economy sized skeleton in his closet named "Kerik."
What? Don't tell me the reason the Dems have been letting that scandal slide is because they wanted to be nice guys? LOL! Something that big you save for a really really special event -- like the sinking of a Presidential campaign.
her lead will s(t)ink and she'll be a non-entity by 2007
I'll support him as well because A) he's a proven leader after 9/11 and B) it will PISS off the psycho rag heads with the thought of us having a Jew as president. (He is jewish, right?)
Are you for real?
WTF do you think the Democrats are gonna do with "The Kerik Portfolio"?
Playing ostrich-in-the-sand -- or even WORSE, scolding someone else for NOT playing that game -- is reprehensible, and severely naive!
The Rudi-dude is "The 'Dole Candidate' for the 21st Century." If the GOP hangs its hopes on that leftist, pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, pro-gun control LIBERAL -- compromised up the yinyang -- simply because he's got some perceived "tuff-guy" personna, and, the Magic "R" on his voter reg. card, then the party will deserve to be creamed every bit as hard as it was when it hung its hopes on Bob "Used-up, but it's HIS TURN" Dole.
Reaching for the Excedrin... [Argh!]
At this point the world situation is ULTRA dangerous//We on on the doorstep of WW3 ..Under these circunstances who give a damn who he roomed with? Rudy is serious on national security. He can get the job done RIGHT , the first time. Thats the only real issue in the next few years..Go take a look at the Muslims tearing down buildings ove a cartoon today> Look at the massive of radical Islam and the real good possiblity of a WMD in the next few years. Thats what people care about , not who he roomed with . Won't matter .
Well golly, if we're gonna be THAT "forgiving" and "understanding", why don't we just drop ALL pretense, and go for the real thing? I hear Hillary is gonna be running too. If we're gonna go for the morally compromised, politically leftist candidate, we may as well get the genuine article instead of a cheap knockoff, donchathink? :)
I mean, how much more is there to "forgive" and "understand" concerning Hillary? Not much -- if any!
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