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To: Torie
The thought of strong independent, intellectual, and accomplished women, just drives some males nuts I guess.

I disagree with about 90% of everything you post. This one bumps the percentage up higher.

My present wife is strong, independent, intellectual and has delighted me no end for nearly 35 years. But the woman I was married to in the 1960s who bore my 3 children bought Friedan's line of destructive anti-male bigotry all the way. It destroyed our marriage, her life, my children's lives and nearly cost me mine. Friedan and the male-hating Sisterhood have brought similar pain and desolation to countless thousands of marriages over the years.

Now, in middle age, my daughters realize all they ever really wanted out of life were good marriages, children and the kind of settled situations they're now finding -- after years of brainwashing to pursue "careers," abortions and the disillusionment of trying to 'have it all'. Friedan was cynical and political and I do not mourn her passing in the least. Good riddance!

155 posted on 02/04/2006 3:49:56 PM PST by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: Bernard Marx

What is the now less than 5% you still agree with me on?


156 posted on 02/04/2006 3:52:53 PM PST by Torie
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To: Bernard Marx

By the way, I said "some" males. Lawyers almost never use the word "all."


158 posted on 02/04/2006 3:54:29 PM PST by Torie
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To: Bernard Marx

Didn't the Man-Hating aspects of Feminism come later though with Gloria Steinam and her ilk? Friedan had expressed distaste for what the Feminist movement has become (Lesbian advocacy).


160 posted on 02/04/2006 3:56:18 PM PST by Borges
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To: Bernard Marx
"Now, in middle age, my daughters realize all they ever really wanted out of life were good marriages, children and the kind of settled situations they're now finding -- after years of brainwashing to pursue "careers," abortions and the disillusionment of trying to 'have it all'."

Gotta tell ya Bernie I understood this about myself at 18. And I well understand because of the uniqueness of my own personal situation, how difficult it would be to have it all. For all kinds of practical reasons (such as possible premature death of a spouse for one) women should be educated and trained to support themselves.

I abhor the Betty Friedan's of the world. They along with the sexual revolution, are the reason by the time I came of age, too many of the men I dated were corrupted. They pursued sex but were not interested in marriage. Women to them were "things."

Many men also pushed for feminism because it meant they could abdicate sexual and marital responsibility, and thus the male of the species also deserve the blame.

166 posted on 02/04/2006 4:09:05 PM PST by TAdams8591 (The first amendment does NOT protect vulgar and obscene speech.)
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