Posted on 02/04/2006 4:38:34 AM PST by Tyche
But skilled people eager to come here legally, with an employer ready and waiting for them, are exactly the thing that built the country - you can't deny it, it is pointless to try. They hurt nobody, they help everybody. And the title of the thread is about expanding that class.
There is nothing wrong with that proposal, and it deserves support, and merits none of the scaremongering, misinformation, slander, and attempts to confuse it with other issues rampant on this thread.
Here is a test of your intellectual honesty. What is the right level of new immigrants with high job skills willing to work, not taking any handouts, and fully willing to comply with all of our laws including our immigration laws?
First post on this thread and you can't wait to lay your race card on the table. Vintage race-baiting quisling tactic.
I suppose that's about all you can do these days, there being so few quislings around now to compound your own stupidity.
Da, comrade. We will start by killing all the greedy Kulaks.
Any American in the high-tech field knows that. Many so-called smart Indians think they are really needed over here, but the really smart ones know the truth of why they are really being offered these jobs, they are willing to work cheaper than Americans.
Since 1997, a married couple can earn $500,000 in capital gains tax free on a house.
more insanity.
this administrations economic plan for every problem is lower wages. free trade = lower wages, guest workers = lower wages, more H1Bs = lower wages.
in the meantime, I know former tech workers now employed at Lowes. older guys, in their 50s. companies don't want them.
and that's what's happening - none, I repeat ZERO, of my techie colleagues are sending their own kids to college for engineering. the field is being killed within one generation as far as americans are concerned.
he is right to be concerned.
no, the NBA does. why doesn't everyone try to be in the NBA then?
people make career choices based on both the compensation and the numerical availability of jobs. the NBA offers a great median wage, but few positions.
yeah, they have new jobs - like my buddy at Lowes.
stay with business, if he likes math and CS, do a double major in finance and CS. then get a job in the hedge fund industry, if he's good, he'll be retired at 45 and you'll be driving a Bentley that he gave you for your birthday.
its a worthless job, contributing nothing to society, trading paper all day, but that's the kind of jobs this society values now with high compensation.
My father was an engineer, raised seven children on his salary (my mother did not work); he bought a new car every 4 or 5 years, a sailboat, nice house, and after 30 years a comfortable retirement. Can you imagine the costs of raising seven children? I raised two, and know they aren't cheap. In the past 15 years I've only had two new cars. Good ones, a 91 Maxima, and a 91 Corolla (for wife). I've saved a reasonable sum for retirement, and vested in pension, but except for an unexpected windfall, my retirement would have me scrimping.
My manager thinks very highly of me, I'm very high on retention totem, usually get above "merit" pool raises. The project managers that I work for seek me out and are very happy with my work. My skills, productivity and ability to perform have grown tremendously over the past 20 years, but my pay has not kept up with the cost of living, and my coworkers get much less in real pay than their peers did 20 years ago. Certainly middle level, white collar workers in the US are being reduced in economic status.
No, we should turn the executive management class upside down and shake out the loot from their pockets - we earned it; they mostly interfered with it being generated - the fools that they are.
That sounds familiar. Where have I heard it before?
Ya, tell that to the state govenrments!
Please explain further.
when pressed, the FR "free trade" and "corporations can do no wrong" crowd will tell you that what happened at united airlines was perfectly fine. bankruptcy to escape their pension obligations, and then they emerge and grant 100 million to the top executives who "run the company". in reality, they aren't running these companies, they are looting them.
It apparently is a common experience for the middle class worker - perhaps you heard it from some 40 or 50 year old middle class drone? Some escape the experience, I wish I had - but I do emphasize with them - they are being screwed by the owner class, as the owner's take advantage of the their usually inherited positions to plunder the worker class of their activity, ingenuity, and productivity. It is time to push back, to gain some equity in what we produce.
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