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To: hedgetrimmer
So deal with illegals and don't let immigrants have welfare - I'll agree all day.

But skilled people eager to come here legally, with an employer ready and waiting for them, are exactly the thing that built the country - you can't deny it, it is pointless to try. They hurt nobody, they help everybody. And the title of the thread is about expanding that class.

There is nothing wrong with that proposal, and it deserves support, and merits none of the scaremongering, misinformation, slander, and attempts to confuse it with other issues rampant on this thread.

Here is a test of your intellectual honesty. What is the right level of new immigrants with high job skills willing to work, not taking any handouts, and fully willing to comply with all of our laws including our immigration laws?

401 posted on 02/04/2006 4:13:00 PM PST by JasonC
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To: JasonC
What is the right level of new immigrants with high job skills willing to work, not taking any handouts, and fully willing to comply with all of our laws including our immigration laws?

Do they believe in the American system of government and are willing to defend the Constitution to the death, or do they just want to bring "mother government" here, and send money to their homeland?
438 posted on 02/04/2006 8:56:11 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: JasonC
But skilled people eager to come here legally, with an employer ready and waiting for them, are exactly the thing that built the country - you can't deny it, it is pointless to try. They hurt nobody, they help everybody. And the title of the thread is about expanding that class.

My only disagreement with your posts is your claim that H1Bs are hired because they're more intelligent, more talented, and "geniuses" compared to their American counterparts.

The real reason they're hired is that they're willing to work for a much lower salary. Companies and sometimes "bodyshops"/third parties even send H1Bs to classes here in the U.S. to educate them further in their field with the expectation that they will work more for lower pay. That means they're not bringing "expertise" here to the U.S. They're merely being educated here so they can be cheap labor.

There's nothing wrong with hiring the person who will work more for less. But, why not hire and train U.S. citizens who are willing to work more for less? Require foreigners to become U.S. citizens in order to work here. Right now, H1Bs are being educated here through American companies only to eventually take all of that knowledge back "home" with them to their country.

Also, India and China don't have a monopoly on genius. H1B is just a political football to keep both American companies and other countries happy.

588 posted on 02/05/2006 10:50:01 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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