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To: grey_whiskers
As far as I know not even admittedly atheistic evos such as Dawkins ever suggested that Urey and Miller created life. :-)

Exactly.

About the reducing atmosphere, RWP (no YEC'er himself) said earlier on this thread that laypeople could get confused about the current state of detailed chemistry of abiogenesis. I do NOT specifically recall whether he was referring to the reducing atmosphere, so your mileage may vary...

I'm sure High School kids writing essays make a mess of it all the time. What is the problem with the concept that, whatever his actual lack of expertise, Berlinski is writing a magazine article in his role of "leading light of ID" and, consequently, his presumed if not real credentials? We are to believe he has looked into this.

And in fact he has looked into it with his usual blinders and seen only what he wants to see. I've been reading creationist and ID crap for seven years and it's a melange of selective quotation, strawman logic, and outright lies. I'm sorry if I figured out a long time ago that it's not just an innocent mistake. It really isn't that hard to see. Since you supposedly never heard of the Discovery Institute until a thread or two ago, you're hardly in a position to tell people they're drawing conclusions upon inadequate data.

I just want to make sure I am not misunderstanding you.

Understand this. I'm not even going to read the next 15 paragraphs of filibustering blah-blah you post to me.

308 posted on 02/09/2006 6:55:09 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: VadeRetro
It really isn't that hard to see. Since you supposedly never heard of the Discovery Institute until a thread or two ago, you're hardly in a position to tell people they're drawing conclusions upon inadequate data.

Arthur C. Clarke said "Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity." I have found it to work remarkably well.

If you have more experience that me in dealing with creationists who argue in bad faith, then you are not jumping the gun in holding it against them.

But I don't want to begin by accusing people I don't even know of lying; I will come to my conclusions over time as I gain more experience with them.

Cheers!

312 posted on 02/09/2006 5:48:08 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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