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IBM Sends Open Source Architecture Tools to Russia
ebizQ ^ | 02/03/2006 | ebizQ

Posted on 02/03/2006 1:39:00 PM PST by Golden Eagle

IBM today announced free software and educational resources to help developers in Russia build and deploy innovative applications based on open standards and open source.

Tapping into the booming software development market in Russia, IBM is giving software developers, architects and students free access to software and hundreds of new tools and technical and educational resources that will enable them to more easily build open standards-based applications.

With a few clicks of a mouse, developers can download free versions of IBM middleware, IBM WebSphere Application Server Community Edition and IBM DB2 Universal Database Express-C, as well as access trial code, tutorials, technical forums, emerging technologies and blogs where IBM technical experts share their tips and expertise.

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To: rzeznikj at stout
Desperation is my guess. But that's really a question for N3.
101 posted on 02/03/2006 7:06:20 PM PST by clyde asbury (/* Halley */)
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To: rzeznikj at stout

Dear rzeznikj at stout,

"Come up with something original for a change."

I don't think Microsoft pays that well.


sitetest


102 posted on 02/03/2006 7:06:27 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: N3WBI3

Should have pinged you to 101.


103 posted on 02/03/2006 7:07:18 PM PST by clyde asbury (/* Halley */)
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104 posted on 02/03/2006 7:07:34 PM PST by Drango ( No animals were harmed while producing this post)
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To: sitetest
sitetest~

Me neither. But you never know :^D

105 posted on 02/03/2006 7:08:34 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (This is a darkroom. Keep the door closed or you'll let all the dark out...)
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To: William Creel
Russia has a lot of talented programmers, I guess IBM wants to tap into that.

I am afraid that the real motive is the cheaper labor.

106 posted on 02/03/2006 7:09:19 PM PST by A. Pole (The freemarketeers are economic men, greedy, rational and controlled by the invisible hand market.)
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To: Golden Eagle; N3WBI3
Since you've already conceded that there is (virtually) no law involved in this issue

Thanks to Clinton, I pointed out, but you ignored.

i didn't ignore it, proof being that my comments (in blue) make reference to your comment. At any rate, it's a Non Sequitur. The activity is legal, the Open Source software producers are not the issue in this matter, unless you can show that there is not a single Proprietary Software producer engaged in the same practise.

you certainly are sounding more and more like a Marxist

Sure I am. While I stand here speaking out against it.

Funny like a crutch. On the contrary, you're advocating controls on the free market that have no bearing on National Security. That is distinctly Statism. Your denials ring as hollow as those of Fat Teddy (Kennedy), and Lyndon LaRouche (a supposed 'reformed' Marxist, who is in reality a Stalinist).

107 posted on 02/03/2006 7:34:17 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper)
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To: clyde asbury

Clyde,

No clue as to why he did it, but I am at the request of the mod going to pull the list from my profile page and keep it elsewhere..


108 posted on 02/03/2006 7:37:23 PM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3
No clue as to why he did it, but I am at the request of the mod going to pull the list from my profile page and keep it elsewhere..

You're writing iptables. That's a good move.
109 posted on 02/03/2006 8:15:51 PM PST by clyde asbury (/* Halley */)
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To: Abathar; TChris; rzeznikj at stout; sitetest; William Creel; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; isthisnickcool; ..
Greetings all,

My apologies for pinging so many of you, but I've grown extraordinarily weary of our resident troll hijacking tech threads.

Those of you who have spent a fair amount of time on these types of threads have seen how they so often devolve into a bunch of circular arguments pushed by "golden eagle" time and time again.

During the month or so during his absence which started around the Christmas holidays, the threads were a lot more civil and informative. Even during the height of the January threads revolving around the threat posed by the latest major IE vulnerability, things didn't devolve into a big "linux/apple/microsoft sucks" shouting match. Some good-natured criticisms were going on from all sides to be sure, but, as I'm sure many of you noticed, everything was a lot friendlier, even amongst those who disagreed with each other.

Lively discussions are great, and in fact one of the things that really makes FreeRepublic such a nice place to hang out, but there is a difference between this and trollish behavior, that almost seems by design to cause discussion to grind to a halt.

Any of you can scroll through the past 1000, 2000, or more posts of his posting history and see that out of an average thousand posts, you will be lucky to find more than a single posts not relevant in a direct way to the various tech threads here on FR. How many of you could say the same? I mean, things are happening all over the country and the world, but I seriously doubt that any of you are so maniacally single minded. Consider all that has happened in the country and the world over the past year. Have any of you stayed completely silent on all matters political on this board? I seriously doubt it.

The point of my posting this is to ask for folks to do their best to stop feeding this troll. I understand that it is really difficult sometimes, especially when he says really outrageous things, but we really need to do our best to make this a useful place to hang out.

Thanks for your time and consideration,
Z

110 posted on 02/03/2006 10:11:58 PM PST by zeugma (Muslims are varelse...)
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To: Golden Eagle
By lowering the value of software, which is currently a very important industry in the U.S.

You really need to learn reality and economics.

First, you act like all the software in the country is COTS when a huge, if not the major, proportion is software custom-written for government and business. Most of the developers who answer want ads are not going to work for Microsoft and Adobe, but organizations needing internal software written (or contractors to those organizations).

Second, you seem to believe in the broken-window theory of economics. Find out what it is, then think of COTS software as the baseball.

111 posted on 02/04/2006 7:16:37 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
Some people don't care, like Bill Clinton, who removed almost all export controls on software by executive order his last day in office.

Those controls were hurting US businesses, who couldn't sell their software that included good crypto (like databases and OSs) on the international market, allowing foreign companies time to catch up technologically and sell in their markets. I wonder if German SAP would be as big as it is now had our companies been able to sell their top products in Germany.

112 posted on 02/04/2006 7:22:51 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
IBM stockholders know what's best for the USA? Then why aren't most of their employees on our soil?

There was an old adage "What's good for GM is good for the country" and GM had a HUGE number of employees overseas (including Opel in Germany and Vauxhall in Britain).

113 posted on 02/04/2006 7:28:13 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: N3WBI3; Golden Eagle
Except you're ignoring that I have *never* said I have anything against closed source.

I think GE is just the flip side of Richard Stallman, both ideological to the point of absurdity.

114 posted on 02/04/2006 7:36:07 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Drango
Then JOIN us!

Thanks, but my computer time is devoted to an Army team.

115 posted on 02/04/2006 7:37:38 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: N3WBI3

So your list isn't open source after all. If you don't actually believe in open source, why are you constantly pushing that philosophy on everyone?


116 posted on 02/04/2006 10:11:26 AM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: zeugma

I simply put up a thread questioning when U.S. based corporations give free technology away to potential adversaries during a time of war. Is that something you approve of? Where am I wrong?


117 posted on 02/04/2006 10:12:54 AM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: rzeznikj at stout

If IBM has truly open sourced this stuff, then anybody can use it, including right back home in the USA. This truly is a tide that cannot help but lift all boats.


118 posted on 02/04/2006 10:13:56 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Golden Eagle
I simply put up a thread questioning when U.S. based corporations give free technology away to potential adversaries during a time of war.

Would you feel more comfortable if a U.S. corporation licensed proprietary technology to a potential adversary?

119 posted on 02/04/2006 10:18:13 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: antiRepublicrat

Open source is lowering the value of U.S. software on a daily basis. Just this last week we had IBM giving DB2 away and VMWare giving away GSX, essentially lowering the value of IP for that level of transaction to $0. As the dominoes continue to fall, COTS companies will lay off more, just as IBM and Sun have been doing, and those attempting to survive on customizations alone will continue to see increased competition between themselves, forcing prices and wages to fall there as well. The U.S. will quickly lose its current technological lead, if it refuses to protect the value of its intellectual property. Open source is obviously one of the most significant threats we face, especially as it becomes closer and closer intertwined with the UN and DNC.


120 posted on 02/04/2006 10:26:11 AM PST by Golden Eagle
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