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Students Speak On Abortion (at NARL event, UCONN ladies talk about their experiences)
The Daily Campus ^ | 2/3/06 | Brad Tilles and Chris Pickett

Posted on 02/03/2006 11:10:47 AM PST by presidio9

The UConn Women's Center hosted an event Thursday night that highlighted a woman's right to choose an abortion. Co-sponsored by the National Abortion Rights and Reproduction Action League (NARAL), the event consisted of the documentary film, "Speak Out: I Had An Abortion," and a discussion among students about the social issue.

The film documented the stories of several women of different racial, social and religious backgrounds and their decision to have an abortion performed on them, whether it was legal or illegal depending on the time period. The film was directed by Gillian Aldrich and produced by Jennifer Baumgardner. The first segment dealt with an 85-year-old black woman named Florence Rice who had an illegal abortion performed to her at the age of 16 in 1938. At this point in time during the Depression, abortions were both illegal and greatly shunned upon in society, yet Rice stated she had no regrets over her decision.

Many women spoke about their lives and their decision to have the procedure, even if they had to keep the ordeal a secret from friends and family. Some, however, had to face the harsh consequences from their families. Jenny Egan had an abortion while in high school in 1994, but faced many hardships growing up in a conservative Mormon household. Her mother found out about her abortion after an anti-abortion group known as "The Brotherhood" sent a letter informing her parents of the abortion, to which her mother inflicted much guilt onto Egan. Upon entering an all-girl college, Egan found comfort in telling her story to her peers.

A woman named Robin Ringletta-Kottkin, who grew up in a strict Catholic household with anti-abortion beliefs, had to ultimately choose to have the procedure after an adoption agency informed her that they would not accept a bi-racial baby, since the father of the child was black. While still in college and with no way to care for and support the child, it was then that she realized society had valued some children over others, which led to her decision. Ringletta-Kottkin discussed the day of her abortion and the protesters she had to face outside the clinic. It wasn't until inside with the female physician that she felt comfortable about what she was doing. Since then, she has regretted not talking about her abortion because it had just created more shame for herself.

The goal of this documentary was to discuss this social issue with true stories of women who had to face this decision and the comfort they felt in openly dealing with their stories. The film chronicled the support women had for each other- whether it was just with their gynecologist or holding "speak outs" where women spoke to large crowds about their experiences. "When I saw women standing up for their support of abortion, I realized how little alone I was," remarked one woman who participated in pro-choice rallies.

After the film, Lisa Marie Griffiths, an instructor in the School of Nursing and a board member of NARAL, hosted an open discussion with students on their thoughts on the film and any questions they had regarding the medical procedure and social history of abortion. Some students chose to discuss their own experiences with abortion and the difficulty that came with the decision.

"The purpose is to bring awareness of women's choices and to increase acceptance in women's abortions," said Griffiths about the goals behind the event. "If we don't talk about it, it's still going to be a social stigma."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionagenda; campus; libertarianprochoice; naral; proaborts; uconn
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To: GovernmentShrinker

The two are not analogous.

The only intent of an abortion is to kill an innocent child.

But death of innocents due to collateral damage in war is NOT intended and often does not occur. The intentional act to kill an enemy during a just war is justified. The unitended collateral damage that may occur is not the same as directly killing a baby on purpose.


121 posted on 02/04/2006 12:08:09 AM PST by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: presidio9
Her mother found out about her abortion after an anti-abortion group known as "The Brotherhood" sent a letter informing her parents of the abortion, to which her mother inflicted much guilt onto Egan.

That sentence pegged my bogometer. Either it's an outright lie or "The Brotherhoood" is somebody she ticked off at school.

122 posted on 02/04/2006 5:49:02 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: presidio9
A woman named Robin Ringletta-Kottkin, who grew up in a strict Catholic household with anti-abortion beliefs, had to ultimately choose to have the procedure after an adoption agency informed her that they would not accept a bi-racial baby, since the father of the child was black.

One of my childhood friends had this same problem...not that the agency wouldn't take the child, but that they would have had trouble placing him. So what did she do? She raised the child. Mother and son are doing fine, he is a human joke machine and I expect he will be one of the finest linebackers in the state in a couple of years.

123 posted on 02/04/2006 5:53:22 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: presidio9
Since then, she has regretted not talking about her abortion because it had just created more shame for herself.

What in the world did she have to be ashamed of, if it was such a great decision? And isn't it interesting how 2 out of the 3 women described are from really strict religious households? No hidden agenda there...

124 posted on 02/04/2006 5:58:05 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: Mr. Silverback

There's a very interesting article..."Roe Babies and Reagan Babies"...at oregonmag.com about how the younger generation is becoming pro-life.


125 posted on 02/04/2006 6:00:55 AM PST by Carolinamom (I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves. ---Ronald Reagan)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
I am not arguing that abortion should be illegal. I am just arguing that putting a postive spin on a very heinous act is quite disturbing.

I appreciate your views, but I'd like to ask this: If the fetus is a human (or we're not sure) why should killing it be legal?

126 posted on 02/04/2006 6:01:48 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: GovernmentShrinker; Pessimist
Anti-war extremists take the same view of "collateral damage" which kills innocent civilians.

No flame suit necessary. Two answers:

1. Strangely those anti-war nuts never seem to have the same feeling about the 100-250 million people killed by leftist regimes during the last century.

2. When those folks find me a war fought by Americans where the collateral damage is 43 million civilians and the rallying cause is "the freedom to have sex with men you wouldn't want to have a child wit" then I will agree with their assessment.

127 posted on 02/04/2006 6:07:02 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: presidio9
Nope, no holes in this story.

And notice the way the "journalist" at the campus newspaper puts this :"it was then that she realized society had valued some children over others".

Either sloppy or biased. Heck, probably both.

128 posted on 02/04/2006 6:13:34 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: Mr. Silverback

I agree there is twisting of what a fetus is. It's a live human being. It's not an anomaly. A woman just doesn't wake up one morning to find she is pregant by nature. She has to engage in usually unprotected sex (assuming she wasn't raped).

It is killing of an unborn but LIVE human being. I don't want to see abortion become illegal. What I do want to see is have it restricted. First trimester only. Parent notification. Alternatives and negative side effects explained in great detail. And have it all paid for privately (the woman, family, charities, NOW, or who ever wants to help them). I don't think government funds should be used at all. Ultimately, R V W should be over turned and the issue kicked back to the states and let the people of the states dictate to their leaders what they want. That's the only way the issue will be resovled once in for all. There will be states that will ban it and states that will allow it. That's democracy.

In the mean time, we have bigger fish to fry. Like the expanding government that is draining people of their money and wasting it on big socialist programs. And education. We will fall behind India and China (already are) in technology and science because we have an education system run by liberals who are more interested in indoctrinating kids into left wing causes that won't help our economy grow but will help in better understanding why we need to accept every other view point, no matter how damaging or wrong it is.


129 posted on 02/04/2006 8:32:08 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (Put a mirror to the face of the republican party and all you'll see is a Donkey.)
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To: MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...
Pro-Life PING

Please FreepMail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

130 posted on 02/04/2006 3:13:14 PM PST by cpforlife.org (Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Personally, I am interested in conserving and reclaiming the liberty guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.


Please enlighten me. WHERE does the Constitution say that abortion is ok? 'Cause I looked, and I just can't find it.


131 posted on 02/04/2006 5:27:02 PM PST by confederate_infidel (IM ON THE WEST SIDE!!!!!)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
It is killing of an unborn but LIVE human being. I don't want to see abortion become illegal. What I do want to see is have it restricted. First trimester only. Parent notification. Alternatives and negative side effects explained in great detail. And have it all paid for privately (the woman, family, charities, NOW, or who ever wants to help them). I don't think government funds should be used at all.

If it is a LIVE human being, how does restrictions ease your mind? It is still murder, just during the first trimester. How are you comfortable with that? If it is ALIVE (and it is) how is murder justified based on who's money is used?

I believe you are way off base.

132 posted on 02/04/2006 5:48:27 PM PST by phil1750 (Love like you've never been hurt;Dance like nobody's watching;PRAY like it's your last prayer)
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To: Shethink13

College students don't live in a vacuum. They are on the receiving end of messages put out by all kinds of activist groups, mass media, politicians, bumper stickers, etc.


133 posted on 02/04/2006 6:26:10 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Know your rights

The need for abortion will always exist, to protect the freedom of women who don't want to give birth to a baby.


134 posted on 02/04/2006 6:28:32 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: phil1750

It doesn't ease my mind. What it doesn't do is eliminate one extreme for the other, as you would have it. You obviously don't understand human nature. If you did you'd realize banning it completely won't get rid of it. It will just push it underground. There is a compromise to limit it and make people think about their actions instead of draconian measures to make it illegal in every case and in every situation. And if you read the last part of my prior post, you'd know that I stated that people of the states should make the decision by either putting it on the ballot or by lobbying their state representatives to formulate state law governing abortion instead of having the Federal Gov, especially the SCOTUS deciding legislation. That way it will be the end of the debate. If people in one state vote to keep it legal, then fine. If another state votes to ban it, then fine. But, once and for all the people will have spoken.

I accept the fact that you think I am way off base. At the same time, you are way off base to think that abortion will ever become compeletly illegal across the country.

I'll even add that I'd prefer the abortion pill, assuming it was safe which it is not, over typical abortions performed today. Why, you ask? Because it puts the abortion clinics out of business and completely wipes out the radical pro abortion woman's groups. It puts the onus on the person to make that decision to take that pill.

I live in a world where I accept things as they are, not how they should be. Thus, I figure out what would work than trying to create a utopia that will never exist. Abolishing abortion outright will never happen. Putting limits on it to make people act more repsonsibily can happen.

You can try all you want to try to get the toothpaste back in the tube. Good luck.


135 posted on 02/04/2006 6:42:25 PM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (Put a mirror to the face of the republican party and all you'll see is a Donkey.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
College students don't live in a vacuum. They are on the receiving end of messages put out by all kinds of activist groups, mass media, politicians, bumper stickers, etc.

And those messages are strictly anti-abortion? There's no activism on the pro-abort side therefore they need a special pro-abort event for balance? Give me a break.

136 posted on 02/04/2006 9:00:48 PM PST by Shethink13
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To: GovernmentShrinker; wideawake; Mr. Silverback
The need for abortion will always exist, to protect the freedom of women who don't want to give birth to a baby.

Let me begin by saying that you're still avoiding my question as to whether you think this is a Conservative forum or a Libertarian one. Why are you afraid to answer?

That being said, your comment above is hands-down the most asinine statement that I have ever read on FR.

137 posted on 02/05/2006 7:48:02 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K virus -only without the handy deadline.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
The need for abortion will always exist, to protect the freedom of women who don't want to give birth to a baby.

Needs editing. I'll edit it for free, and even give you two versions to choose from:

The need for abortion will always exist, to protect the freedom of women to have sex with men they don't want to raise a child with.

The need for abortion will always exist, to protect the freedom of males who use women as weenie warmers.

There, all fixed. Which one do you prefer?

138 posted on 02/05/2006 8:23:29 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: wideawake; presidio9

See post 138.


139 posted on 02/05/2006 8:24:17 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Your true agenda stands revealed. You were bending over backwards to pretend a liar was telling the truth because you yourself are a liar and were demonstrating solidarity.

Why do you, as a left-wing radical, bother posting to this forum? There are plenty of child-murder advocacy forums on the web.

140 posted on 02/06/2006 5:22:35 AM PST by wideawake
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