Posted on 02/03/2006 2:13:13 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Not exactly. The Lloyds classification is more indicative of the quality of the ship and it's care than registration. Flag registration means more about ownership and whether or not union crewing and bunkering parameters and multiple ports of call within one country and that sort of thing. When I owned freighters, I had Maltese, Honduran and Panamanian flags but ran Brit Lloyds or Norske Veritas class and I can promise you that the Gestapo inspectors for those outfits were very very thorough. I think they call Norske Veritas DNV now. Many of the world's best motor vessels run small flags....including nearly all supertankers that don't run intraport US without waiver. The Union requirements in most industrialized nations to run their home flag makes operations impossible unless subsidized. That's what killed the US merchant fleet. Aside from that rant, it looks bad for these families. Terrible.
I don't think that either Egypt or Saudi Arabia has laws regading maximum capacity..
Inclement
They probablly dont have capacity laws, but it now appears that the ship was under capacity as far as people go but may have been over capacity on cars
Ah-mad-in-e-head; Ahmadinejad. My mnemonic.
More like Ah-mad-in-jihad
One of the posts here, up close to the top, did mention the possibility of a car rolling about; I don't know if it would be likely that the passengers would be running from side to side at that hour of the night/morning.
Wow. One of those overpacked ferries, as happens occcasionally in SE Asia?
Must...get...more...coffee...
Hello again IJ.....
I always prefered Maryjane.....
ROFL
If you look at the picture in 25 and the data that the draft is 15 to 30 feet (unloaded/loaded ?), this thing is likely to tip over.
The problem with these ferries is most of them are old, not maintained very well, and they like to overload them with wayyy too many passengers and cars.. this kind of disaster happens all the time. Didn't they just have one capsize off the coast of Indonesia?
Rush just read a report that they refused assistance from the Israeli navy, as well.
I can think of larger vessels that have sank without a trace, or a survivor. SS Waratah comes to mind, and she was under a year old.
Your ideas make sense, but here's my question: I heard on FNC this morning that there was probably 10 hours between when the ship sank and when it was discovered/noticed. Perhaps a probblem was only noticed when it didn't arrive on time.
Aren't ships like this monitored from the ports? Even if it went down quickly, wouldn't radar show something was wrong and a search helicopter or something sent out? We're not talking about the Pacific here, but a rather defined area and I assume the ship was on a defined route.
Why would it take the port authorities so long to notice something was wrong?
That makes (at least) two of us!
i.e., **ck em'
CAIRO, Sept 11, 2001 (AFP) -
"Bullseye," commented two taxi drivers as they watched footage of the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York shrouded in plumes of smoke after two hijacked planes slammed into them earlier in the day.
Just Awful...prayers up.
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