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For Lou Dobbs, It's Always Groundhog Day
RedState ^ | February 2nd, 2006 | Pat Cleary

Posted on 02/02/2006 8:19:45 AM PST by LowCountryJoe

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To: SC33
I think Paul Craig Roberts writes the script for Dobbs. They're both assclowns.
21 posted on 02/02/2006 8:42:13 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: LowCountryJoe

Dobbs does make Cavuto look terrific simply by contrast. Watching Bogart as "Dobbsie" in a recent rerun of the "Treasure of the Sierra Madre" made me wonder if finding negatives in great economic news isn't a Dobbs family trait?


22 posted on 02/02/2006 8:44:37 AM PST by Reo
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To: Pessimist
The astute sentence reader would have stopped after the first sentence of his or her reply and conceded that if the added jobs came as a result of foreign manufacturers locating here, the vast majority of those jobs created here are being filled by Americans who live here...making the quoted sentence very accurate!
23 posted on 02/02/2006 8:59:03 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (The Far Right and the Far Left both disdain markets. If the Left ever finds God, the GOP is toast.)
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To: SC33; A. Pole
To be honest, I think Lou Dobbs has one of the best shows on cable news.

Don't worry, they'll be drooling over his show (completely unchanged from what it is now) when there's a Dem in the White House.

24 posted on 02/02/2006 9:00:43 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Reo
Yes! Looking for the dark cloud within the silver linings isn't just a Dobb phenomena, though. Look at how many come out in Dobb's support in this conservative forum - some only having the courage to agree with him on the immigration front only, however. But I know they're buying into all of it; their silence on the economy speaks volumes.
25 posted on 02/02/2006 9:04:17 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (The Far Right and the Far Left both disdain markets. If the Left ever finds God, the GOP is toast.)
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To: LowCountryJoe

Good and honest man.


26 posted on 02/02/2006 9:07:16 AM PST by Icelander (Legal Resident Since 2004)
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To: Wolfie
We will? And what will you be doing while he abruptly shifts sentiments and begins to adore the policies that Democrats start implementing? Still drooling and demonstrating your economic ignorance on this web site, perhaps?
27 posted on 02/02/2006 9:08:49 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (The Far Right and the Far Left both disdain markets. If the Left ever finds God, the GOP is toast.)
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To: dljordan
I've started watching him every day just to see him lambast the administration over the immigration fiasco. I like him better than Bill O.

Ditto. It seems to me that on economic issues the poor are represented by the Democrats (rather poorly, no pun intended) and the Chamber of Commerce is represented by the Republicans. Nobody is looking out for the middle class and I am glad to see Lou Dobbs pointing that out night after night.

28 posted on 02/02/2006 9:09:43 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: All

Lou is probably LOOKING MORE OUT FOR YOU THAN MR. O.


29 posted on 02/02/2006 9:10:22 AM PST by Icelander (Legal Resident Since 2004)
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To: LowCountryJoe

If Dobbs does indeed shift his tone, I'll castigate him for it.


30 posted on 02/02/2006 9:10:44 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: SC33
To be honest, I think Lou Dobbs has one of the best shows on cable news.

Isn't he on opposite Special Report with Brit Hume? No wonder I never see his show.

31 posted on 02/02/2006 9:12:08 AM PST by McGruff
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To: Pessimist
The astute geographer will note that neither of those 2 countries are in North America, and were therefore unaffected by NAFTA.

If the cars are built in the US then they qualify under the rules of origination and fall under NAFTA even if the owner is in Europe or Japan.

32 posted on 02/02/2006 9:13:26 AM PST by Joe Miner
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To: Joe Miner

If you mean to the extent that they may then be exported from the US to Mexico or Canada, you're right.


33 posted on 02/02/2006 9:17:04 AM PST by Pessimist
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To: LowCountryJoe

These are not jobs which came from either Canada or Mexico. NAFTA is an agreement between us and them. It has nothing to do with German or Japanese manufacturers locating here.

To look at auto employment by German or Japanese firms and imply that its a result of NAFTA is disengenuous.


34 posted on 02/02/2006 9:19:39 AM PST by Pessimist
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To: Icelander

That's the problem with populists - they're easily led down the dark paths of more government and less liberty...if only the populist's bulbs weren't quite so dim: of course then they'd no longer be populists and could lead themselves to the umbrellas of more respectable (though sometimes misguided) labels.


35 posted on 02/02/2006 9:23:21 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (The Far Right and the Far Left both disdain markets. If the Left ever finds God, the GOP is toast.)
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To: Pessimist; LowCountryJoe
These are not jobs which came from either Canada or Mexico. NAFTA is an agreement between us and them. It has nothing to do with German or Japanese manufacturers locating here.

To look at auto employment by German or Japanese firms and imply that its a result of NAFTA is disengenuous.

I think the point was NAFTA was going to destroy America's manufacturing. These foreign manufacturers could just as easily built their plants in Canada or Mexico and then sent the cars to the US duty free after NAFTA. Yet they built the plants here. So much for the theory that NAFTA would destroy our manufacturing.

36 posted on 02/02/2006 9:26:05 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: LowCountryJoe
He makes a quick point on the need for socialized medicine, quoting noted health care expert, Rep. Dennis Kunicinich. God help us all.
Zing! LOL ...
37 posted on 02/02/2006 9:29:46 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Pessimist
To look at auto employment by German or Japanese firms and imply that its a result of NAFTA is disengenuous.

Since we don't know where the number 300,000 came from its hard to say whether he is correct or incorrect. But some of the jobs created here by German and Japanese auto manufacturers could be due to them exporting cars from here into Canada and Mexico because of NAFTA tariff reductions between the three countries.

So it might or might not be disingenuous, there are not enough facts to say one way or the other.

38 posted on 02/02/2006 9:29:51 AM PST by Joe Miner
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To: LowCountryJoe
We watch so you don't have to.

Will you please also watch Pat Buchanan and listen to Howard Stern. Thanks.

39 posted on 02/02/2006 9:33:16 AM PST by aculeus
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To: Pessimist
This isn't sarcasm. It is an acknowledgment that you are, in fact, correct in your criticism of that sentence. If I had to guess, the author had two ideas and combined them into one thought in a single sentence. It was a clumsy argument to make that the job inflow could be contributed to NAFTA. So, my earlier response to you was not only unwarranted, but it makes me look like an ass.

But, to aid the "trade is good" crowd - which I'm a proud member of - this job gain does in fact show that capital mobility and WTO principles are not hurting us, as many of the isolationists would like us to believe, but indeed helping us.

40 posted on 02/02/2006 9:34:37 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (The Far Right and the Far Left both disdain markets. If the Left ever finds God, the GOP is toast.)
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