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Deputy's Gunfire Looks Like a Crime to Some (Chino, CA LEO named by LA Times)
LA Times ^ | Matt Lait and Lance Pugmire

Posted on 02/02/2006 7:55:36 AM PST by hispanarepublicana

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To: hispanarepublicana

Maybe the guy refused to support the Police Benelovent Society.


41 posted on 02/02/2006 8:18:29 AM PST by ABN 505
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To: Travis McGee
You're speculating that the nationwide string of Glock 'misfires' and 'accidental discharges' will somehow play a role in the lawman's defense?

I'm presuming that it was a Glock, in all probability. Do you know something else, like the cop had a revolver?

42 posted on 02/02/2006 8:19:07 AM PST by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: Travis McGee
Rhymes with clock ?

I think the first thing this Airman should buy with his newfound millions is a five&seven as the JBT's compatriots might try to finish the job later

43 posted on 02/02/2006 8:19:48 AM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: devane617

I doubt it. Witnesses seem to back up the FL school shooting. After Columbine, I'd say that any kid who did what that idiot did shouldn't be surprised if they got shot. If you Google for it, there are already photos and diagrams up of the shooting - and there's a clear line of fire from that bathroom across (I guess it's called) the quad to some other classrooms. Clear and present threat, sorry.


And no, I'm not a cop.


44 posted on 02/02/2006 8:21:00 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: hispanarepublicana
The airman and the videotaper need get their lawyers together and take out Chino's police thug department. Prolly the shooter will claim the Patriot Act empowered him, as a LEO, to take such measures.
45 posted on 02/02/2006 8:21:24 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: hispanarepublicana

As much as I support the men and women on the thin blue line, this deputy was way out of line, and should be up on charges.


46 posted on 02/02/2006 8:21:29 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

This guy is actually going to make the job harder for the good LEOs.


47 posted on 02/02/2006 8:22:38 AM PST by hispanarepublicana (Chuck Cooperstein is a tool.)
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To: Spktyr

I don't know about SBSD, but most of the dept's out here don't have the cam's yet, FWIW I think all depts nationwide should have the cam's, and fund them themselves


48 posted on 02/02/2006 8:24:17 AM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: MineralMan

Attempted robbery has also resulted in as many cases ending in the death penalty sans trial.


49 posted on 02/02/2006 8:24:25 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: azhenfud

"Attempted robbery has also resulted in as many cases ending in the death penalty sans trial."

No doubt, but that's not the question. I do not believe that attempted murder is a capital offense in Texas, or anywhere else. But, I could be wrong, which is why I asked for an example.


50 posted on 02/02/2006 8:27:30 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan

Gary Graham was arrested for (among other things) murder and attempted murder. He was found guilty and sentenced to death for both the murder and attempted murder charges.


51 posted on 02/02/2006 8:27:47 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: hispanarepublicana

ping


52 posted on 02/02/2006 8:28:00 AM PST by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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To: devane617
Where are all the cop supporters that flamed me two weeks ago because I said the kid in the Florida school shooting was murdered

Saying that this isn't the same thing as that case because this guy didn't do anything threatening

... where as the dead "kid" in Florida pointed a pellet gun at the officer and said pellet gun was indistinguishable from a 9MM ... so put away your soapbox

53 posted on 02/02/2006 8:28:57 AM PST by tx_eggman (Unforgiveness is like eating rat poison and expecting the other person to get sick.)
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To: Spktyr

"Gary Graham was arrested for (among other things) murder and attempted murder. He was found guilty and sentenced to death for both the murder and attempted murder charges.

"

Actually, I believe you will find that he was sentenced to death for the murder alone. Different charges, different penalties. I suggest you look it up. I know of no state in this country that has the death penalty for attempted murder.


54 posted on 02/02/2006 8:29:56 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Travis McGee

A Glock AD doesn't fit the bill. He fired at least four shots. Unless he's got a burst device, he's only going to have one round "go off".

The other thing is that stupid had his finger in the trigger, if that was the case. It's still attempted manslaughter. If it was anyone but a SoCal cop, they'd be hung out to dry then stuffed so far back they had to pump daylight in.


55 posted on 02/02/2006 8:30:44 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: The KG9 Kid
You're speculating that the nationwide string of Glock 'misfires' and 'accidental discharges' will somehow play a role in the lawman's defense? I'm presuming that it was a Glock, in all probability

One round is a negligent discharge. FOUR rounds, on the other hand...................

56 posted on 02/02/2006 8:33:44 AM PST by Terabitten (The only time you can have too much ammunition is when you're swimming.)
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To: MineralMan

My bro's a lawyer and I just asked him via IM if any states allowed for the death penalty for attempted murder. He was careful to say some states may have statutes that he doesn't know about. (Typical CYA). He said the military does for sure, FWIW, but it has to have some aggravating factor (Rape, etc.).


57 posted on 02/02/2006 8:34:00 AM PST by CanisRex (Beware of altruism. It is based on self-deception, the root of all evil. --Lazarus Long)
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To: tx_eggman
Saying that this isn't the same thing as that case because this guy didn't do anything threatening

I think the cop should fry. Having said that, though, watch the video again. The suspect's right hand goes inside his shirt as he's getting up. Maybe the cop thought he was going for a gun?

Or, at least, that'll be the cop's defense in court.

58 posted on 02/02/2006 8:35:42 AM PST by Terabitten (The only time you can have too much ammunition is when you're swimming.)
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To: Wiseghy
The idea of unhinged LEOs out there scares the living hell out of me. I keep my nose clean, I follow all laws, I don't speed, and if I get pulled over, I provide the LEO with my CCW along with the rest of the standard documentation.

Dealing with corrupt cops is a tough business, as the state is apt to side with them in almost every case. Unless you can provide evidence to the contrary, many LEOs could get away with murder. Scary society we live in nowadays.

59 posted on 02/02/2006 8:36:35 AM PST by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / Molwn Labe!)
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To: CanisRex

Found this on a Texas Law School site. Attempted murder is not on the list.:

In Texas, the district courts have original jurisdiction for all criminal felony cases. If an individual is convicted of a capital felony, he or she may be subject to punishment by death, if the State sought such punishment. A capital felony is one in which an individual "intentionally or knowingly causes the death of an individual," under special circumstances. In particular, the:

murder of a public safety officer, firefighter, or correctional employee;
murder during the commission of specified felonies (kidnapping, burglary, robbery, aggravated rape, arson);
murder for remuneration; multiple murders;
murder during prison escape; murder of a correctional officer;
murder by a state prison inmate who is serving a life sentence for any of five offenses; [or]
murder of an individual under six years of age1.


60 posted on 02/02/2006 8:40:26 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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