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Fitzgerald Hints White House Records Lost (I'll take DOJ for $800, Alex)
AP/Forbes ^ | 2-1-06 | Pete Yost

Posted on 02/02/2006 12:31:36 AM PST by STARWISE

Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald is raising the possibility that records sought in the CIA leak investigation could be missing because of an e-mail archiving problem at the White House.

The prosecutor in the criminal case against Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff said in a Jan. 23 letter that not all e-mail was archived in 2003, (((GET THIS: ***the year the Bush administration exposed the identity of undercover CIA officer Valerie Plame.***))))

(They aren't even faking journalistic integrity in leaving out the word "allegedly.")

Lawyers for defendant I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby this week accused prosecutors of withholding evidence the Libby camp says it needs to mount a defense.

"We are aware of no evidence pertinent to the charges against defendant Libby which has been destroyed," Fitzgerald wrote in a letter to the defense team.

But the prosecutor added: "In an abundance of caution, we advise you that we have learned that not all e-mail of the Office of Vice President and the Executive Office of the President for certain time periods in 2003 was preserved through the normal archiving process on the White House computer system." His letter was an exhibit attached to Libby's demand for more information from the prosecution.

Lea Anne McBride, a spokeswoman for Cheney, said the vice president's office is cooperating fully with the investigation, and referred questions to Fitzgerald's office.

(snip)

The Presidential Records Act, passed by Congress in 1978, made it clear that records generated in the conduct of official duties did not belong to the president or vice president, but were the property of the government.

(SNIP)

"Bottom line: Accidents happen and there could be a benign explanation, but this is highly irregular and invites suspicion," said Steve Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists government secrecy project.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cheney; cialeak; cialeakplame; doj; emails; fitzgerald; libby; lost; nationalarchives; ooooops; peteyost; plame; plameleak; valerieplame; valeriewilson; whitehouse; yost
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To: STARWISE
Libby's lawyers have all but said openly that they intend to call to the stand many reporters, including Tim Russert, Bob Woodward, and many, many lesser known figures.

Woodward's testimony will be particularly damaging to Fitzgerald's case.

21 posted on 02/02/2006 5:35:09 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Mo1
Exactly. The responses on this thread have me way more confused than the story itself! I thought I read it

22 posted on 02/02/2006 6:58:40 AM PST by mosquitobite (The penalty for refusing to participate in politics is you end up being governed by your inferiors)
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To: mosquitobite

That's my take


23 posted on 02/02/2006 7:00:02 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: SkyPilot
Woodward's testimony will be particularly damaging to Fitzgerald's case. How so?
24 posted on 02/02/2006 7:00:57 AM PST by huck von finn
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To: STARWISE

ping


25 posted on 02/02/2006 7:08:12 AM PST by TNdandelion
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To: STARWISE
Matthews will be saying this smells like Rosemary Woods. This will give him at least another full night of idiotic soothsaying. “OMG... will there be another Saturday Night Massacre?!” ;^P
26 posted on 02/02/2006 7:09:19 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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To: huck von finn
How so?

Because Woodward will testify that he was told about Vallery Plame by someone other than Libby long before anyone discused it by Libby. He may also testify that many other reporter knew about Plame before Libby knew about it. Woodward says he knew. With how many other reporters did woodward discuss it?

Libby says he learned it from the press... That is Russert. Russert says he did not know. Woodward has said all along that there is no case against Libby, Rove or anyone else in the White House and that the case will collapse when it goes to court.

How could Woodward know that? He could know it if he had proof that Russert knew about Plame could prove it. Either Russert or Libby is lying. If Woodward proves Russert is lying then there is big trouble at NBC and no conviction of Libby.

Fake but accurate lies given in testimoney could get Russert indicted.

27 posted on 02/02/2006 7:15:50 AM PST by Common Tator (Man can not live by bread alone.. he must have peanut butter.)
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To: STARWISE

Fitzgerald continues to flub his dub on this case. He knows he has nothing and "Scooter's' lawyers are going to crucify all of those MSM types who have been living off of those sources who have an ax to grind.

Won't it be fun to see Novak and his junior colleges of D.C. get put on the stand and risk either a jail term or God help us, tell the truth for once.


28 posted on 02/02/2006 7:24:15 AM PST by hgro (A)
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To: Darkwolf377
I think and hope their computers crashed during this time period. Now, come on, how many out there hasn't had a computer
to go South at some time and , the fact that there are all kind of virus's.
29 posted on 02/02/2006 7:30:01 AM PST by buck61 (luv6060)
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To: Howlin
Well, this is not good; this is the same thing we raised holy hell about the Clinton White House doing.

Considering how much the technology has advanced since the Clinton days, and considering how much the WH, GAO, National Archives, Congress, USSC, etc. etc. etc. spend on archiving systems, I have a hard time believing that it's accidental. It was automated years ago, with lots of redundancy.

It's not just being archived because it's the law either, it also helps in case there are security breaches, to track down who, what, when, and where (something that definitely could have been used in the early days of Clintons first term).

It's 2006, not 1996, you can't simply go "oops, computer ate it", because there is a heckuva paper trail (or rather electronic trail) these days.
30 posted on 02/02/2006 7:30:28 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: STARWISE

What a coincidence! Al Gore had the SAME problem, and I think maybe Bill Clinton and his WHOLE staff had the same problem.

WHAT ARE THE ODDS?


31 posted on 02/02/2006 7:32:33 AM PST by listenhillary ("Mainstream media" is creating it's own reality~everything sucks)
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To: STARWISE
We need to look where this report is coming from. AP Sucks!!!
32 posted on 02/02/2006 7:35:03 AM PST by buck61 (luv6060)
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To: STARWISE
>an e-mail archiving problem at the White House


33 posted on 02/02/2006 7:35:32 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Common Tator

You sure know a lot more about this business than I do. The only problem I see is that Libby might have a hard time now because the absence of archived evidence might be used as "more obstruction" on the part of Libby.


34 posted on 02/02/2006 7:35:57 AM PST by huck von finn
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To: buck61
I think and hope their computers crashed during this time period. Now, come on, how many out there hasn't had a computer to go South at some time and , the fact that there are all kind of virus's.

Our computers aren't constantly backed up to expensive servers, and our email doesn't go through the processes that email in any government agency with lots of confidential information goes through. Chances are, email may not even be stored on the local machines in the WH (why risk somebody walking off with a laptop with all kinds of sensitive information).

I wouldn't be surprised if most of the computers in the WH are terminals to begin with.

You and I also aren't governed by federal laws in regards to archiving any and all transactions/communications.
35 posted on 02/02/2006 7:37:36 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Common Tator; huck von finn
That is correct CT - thank.

Libby Defense Demands News Media Materials

Fitzgerald was "aggressive" in his indictment of Libby, to put it mildly. A DC lawyer told me in 1999, "Any Special Prosecutor is under enormous pressure to produce an indictment, of.....something."

He also told me Ken Starr was almost the opposite, and he could have "leaned forward" a lot more than he did with indictments. Fitzgerald, on the other hand, now has a situation where he is blocking evidence from news organizations that the defense is requesting to exonerate Libby! Fitzgerald is potentially in a real bind. If the judge rules against him, he will look like a fool.

36 posted on 02/02/2006 7:46:24 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: af_vet_rr
May-be Sandy Burglar was visiting at the time of said lost emails.
37 posted on 02/02/2006 7:46:34 AM PST by buck61 (luv6060)
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To: STARWISE

I don't understand Fitzgerald's response. Libby is asking for documents the government holds and is basing the government case upon, not what might be on WH computers.


38 posted on 02/02/2006 7:54:06 AM PST by wildbill
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To: SkyPilot
Fitzgerald is potentially in a real bind. If the judge rules against him, he will look like a fool.

...which makes me wonder, why on earth did he convene a new grand jury in the first place?

39 posted on 02/02/2006 7:54:11 AM PST by huck von finn
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To: buck61

I've recently lost a year's worth of emails via Outlook .. it's now corrupted and unreliable, and I haven't got a clue why. Every time I open the program, it says "the location for this account has changed." Stuff happens with software, for sure.


40 posted on 02/02/2006 7:58:17 AM PST by STARWISE (Sedition:an illegal action inciting resistance to lawful authority- to cause the overthrow of govt)
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