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New weapon could mean the end of collateral damage
Insight Magazine ^ | 1/30/2006 | Insight on the news

Posted on 02/01/2006 1:27:51 PM PST by GEC

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To: Egon

Maybe he was referring to victory as being in the battle at hand and not the war in general.


41 posted on 02/01/2006 1:50:04 PM PST by Eagles Talon IV
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To: TChris
The author of this article seems to misunderstand the very nature of war. Wars are won by breaking the enemy's will to fight.

Watching the men around you fall silently to the ground with dime-sized holes burned through their skulls from an unknown source might potentially be unnerving.

42 posted on 02/01/2006 1:50:14 PM PST by Physicist
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To: g_suvorov

Some more info on the ATL from Global Security .org
Note the part about how it can be fired from so far away it is almost covert.

Advanced Tactical Laser (ATL)
The Advanced Tactical Laser (ATL) ACTD is an innovative concept for airborne ultra-precision strike missions that uses a high-energy laser weapon mounted in a tactical aircraft to engage stationary or moving ground targets. On-board visible and infrared surveillance and acquisition sensors provide the weapon operator scene images of increasing resolution for finding, identifying, and engaging targets. The entire weapon system is envisioned as a package of several self-contained modules that can be installed or removed from the aircraft in a few hours.

The ATL uses a closed-cycle, chemical oxygen-iodine laser (COIL) with an appropriate beam control. The closed-cycle system captures waste by-products, making it suitable for tactical employment. The ATL will be installed in a C-130 aircraft to demonstrate its ability to engage tactical targets from a moving platform at ranges of approximately 10 kilometers. This SOCOM demonstration program is important and should be completed in the 2007-2009 timeframe.

The Advanced Tactical Laser can place a 10-centimeter-wide beam with the heating power of a blowtorch on distant targets for up to 100 shots. The Advanced Tactical Laser can produce a four-inch-diameter beam of energy that can slice through metal from a distance of 9 miles.

The Advanced Tactical Laser can provide powerful capabilities for both lethal and non-lethal ultra-precision engagement of threats with little or no collateral damage. This is often critical in urban environments and congested chokepoints that are vulnerable to terrorist activities or insurgent operations. Operated from a ground, sea or airborne platform, ATL offers the ability to place a precisely calibrated energy pulse on a target from either close in or from a standoff distance of several miles. While the ATL provides a laser weapon that can be used for lethal warfare when warranted, the ATL can also affect less-than-lethal engagements that can help control high-risk situations for both military and humanitarian purposes. Its rapid energy delivery coupled with its high-resolution, non-cooperative observation and surveillance capabilities provide unique defensive operational capabilities in densely populated areas. ATL can exploit the target vulnerabilities to cause the target to be destroyed for military purposes OR to cause limited damage to the extent that its functionality and/or mobility is impaired for humanitarian purposes such as saving the lives of captives or hostages. The ATL can achieve this result in a covert, non-destructive, and non-intrusive mode that negates unnecessary loss of life.

The ATL is required to be a sealed exhaust chemical oxygen iodine laser (COIL) that eliminates the soldier's exposure to chemical effluents and to fit on an MV-22 aircraft. Boeing has demonstrated a compact sealed Chemical Oxygen Iodine Laser that meets these requirements. Boeing has patents for the critical design features of the Sealed Exhaust type of COIL technology, which is the advancement that allows this type of laser to meet the Government's requirements and merit ACTD approval. USASMDC believes that the COIL developed by Boeing is the only existing technology that meets these requirements and that only Boeing has the expertise to perform the ATL ACTD Program Definition phase in concert with synergistic and inseparable testing utilizing its sealed exhaust COIL.

The prime contractor for the advanced tactical laser is the Boeing Company’s Rocketdyne division.The advanced tactical laser, which is expected to cost $180 million through 2005. The ATL includes a laser, optics and control systems enabling fire control systems on fixed and rotary-wing aircraft to precisely direct laser fire on targets from 15 kilometers away.

FY 2002 - Boeing awarded contract to develop ATL weapon system. Drafts of Initial Technical Management Plan (ITMP) and Systems Engineering & Management Plan (SUMPS) completed and in coordination. Lethality testing begun. One mole laser producing 17KW steady power. Statements of work (SOW?s) accomplished between USSOCOM and: AFRL; SMDC; Lincoln Labs; and AFSOC. Discussions initiated with USMC for providing test aircraft. System Baseline Review process started.
FY 2003 - System Baseline Review scheduled December 2002. This will define specifications for ATL weapon system. Preliminary Design Review (PDR) in 4th quarter. Weapon System component construction stated.
FY 2004 - Conduct Concept Design Review (CDR). Assemble Battle Management Command and Control System. Complete optical control system manufacture.
FY 2005 - Low power flight tests with laser controls and low power (surrogate) laser scheduled. Also, assembly and ground checkout of ATL weapon system scheduled. Lethality and ground firing of laser to be accomplished.
The ATL concept has been explored with a large number of military and defense department planners and operators. Through these interactions, including two government-sponsored needs assessment studies, a wide range of candidate missions has evolved. Each has some unique requirements in terms of preferred platform, sensor suites and command and control functions, but they all rely on the same basic laser capability to generate 100 to 300 kW of optical power and deliver it precisely to a small, pre-defined spot.

The outermost cruise missile engagements occur at 20 km, where laser dwell times of five seconds are required for each kill. At shorter ranges, the dwell times are reduced. One target is destroyed for each dwell period, and a few seconds are allocated for re-targeting between shots.

The ATL is not subject to direct attack by small arms or shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles. In fact, it can be far enough away that its action is almost covert. The laser beam makes no sound and is not visible. The effect of the beam may not be easily associated with a presence of an aircraft several miles away!

An ATL will generally operate below most of the clouds. For missile defense, the ATL works best at altitudes around 10,000 feet. But it can operate down to about 2,500 feet; below that, the operational range becomes too short to be useful. Localized weather cells and fronts, however, may be avoided by maneuvering around them, in the Arabian Gulf, temperatures are high, humidity moderate, cloud ceilings high, and visibility limited by blowing sand and dust much of the time. In the Korean peninsula, conditions vary greatly between summer and winter. Winters are cold and clear. Summers are hot, humid and frequently overcast. In both areas, the baseline ATL design achieves > 20 km kill range 50 percent of the time. In the Arabian Gulf location, for 10 percent of the time the range will exceed 24 km, and at 10 percent of the time it will be less than 16 km. In the Korean coastal climate, the variation is greater. The "best" 10 percent of the time the range exceeds 30 km, but the worst 10 percent limits the range to less than 8 km.


43 posted on 02/01/2006 1:50:51 PM PST by jbwbubba
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To: GEC

bfl


44 posted on 02/01/2006 1:51:32 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: GEC

Just a bit of a stretch. It will take out weapons systems – but if their fuel or ammo cooks off there will be collateral damage.


45 posted on 02/01/2006 1:51:44 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: KarlInOhio

the real story here is that we have a field deployable kilo watt class high energy laser


46 posted on 02/01/2006 1:53:10 PM PST by databoss
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To: GEC

We already have a 25 mile range on the Yoko Ono weapon. :)


47 posted on 02/01/2006 1:53:46 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Physicist
Watching the men around you fall silently to the ground with dime-sized holes burned through their skulls from an unknown source might potentially be unnerving.

Maybe. Snipers have been making their heads and hearts explode for years. Still, they want to fight.:-)

48 posted on 02/01/2006 1:55:07 PM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: peyton randolph

All I asked for was a shark with a friggin laser beam attached to his head!


49 posted on 02/01/2006 1:55:11 PM PST by Feiny (Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing.)
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To: TChris
Most conceivable fights in the future will still need boots on the ground.

Yep. This will be great for clearing a path for our troops – but it won’t be a war winner all by itself.
50 posted on 02/01/2006 1:55:24 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: feinswinesuksass
All I asked for was a shark with a friggin laser beam attached to his head!

LOL.

51 posted on 02/01/2006 1:56:52 PM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: GEC
I have been seeing a C130 flying around doing odd manueuvers, probably flying a rough circle as it returns from the same direction several times.

The only thing unusual is they are usually seen at dusk instead of daytime.

52 posted on 02/01/2006 1:57:27 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Physicist
The Advanced Tactical Laser can place a 10-centimeter-wide beam with the heating power of a blowtorch on distant targets for up to 100 shots. The Advanced Tactical Laser can produce a four-inch-diameter beam of energy that can slice through metal from a distance of 9 miles.

Make that "fist sized holes". Ouch!

53 posted on 02/01/2006 1:58:55 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Egon

...save your post.


54 posted on 02/01/2006 2:11:01 PM PST by Orbiter
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To: GEC

Any thoughts on whether this would have an application in targeting hardened, underground facilities?


55 posted on 02/01/2006 2:20:38 PM PST by mseltzer
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To: TChris
Maybe. Snipers have been making their heads and hearts explode for years. Still, they want to fight.

True, but this sniper could pop them from ten miles away!

56 posted on 02/01/2006 2:30:28 PM PST by sima_yi
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To: peyton randolph

57 posted on 02/01/2006 2:30:50 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

Thanks for posting that. The sad thing is most kids don't know what records are...let alone album covers. Damn...I'm getting old.


58 posted on 02/01/2006 2:32:17 PM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: GEC
The U.S. military has been developing a gunship that could literally obliterate enemy ground targets with a laser beam.

Inevitably, any weapon the U.S. designs eventually ends up in enemy hands. Especially if we share the technology with our supposed allies who end up passing that technology on to our enemies.

But, if it's not passed on that way, their spies and our enemy within will see to it that the enemy gets the technology (like Bill Clinton passed traded our missile technology for campaing contributions). We do after all have people in the U.S. who believe that we have no business being a superpower and supposedly controlling the rest of the world.
59 posted on 02/01/2006 2:33:24 PM PST by adorno
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To: robertpaulsen

Wow! AP fans aren't terribly common. I only have two more CDs to go before I own them all.


60 posted on 02/01/2006 2:33:42 PM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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