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Where there's smoke, there might be food research, too
Chicago Tribune ^ | 1/29/06 | Patricia Callahan, Jeremy Manier and Delroy Alexander

Posted on 02/01/2006 10:41:29 AM PST by elkfersupper

America's largest foodmaker and its biggest cigarette company for years have likened themselves to distant siblings, giants that just happened to be owned by the same parent company.

In fact, Kraft Foods Inc. and Philip Morris USA have pooled expertise in search of making more-alluring foods and cigarettes since the dawn of their corporate pairing two decades ago, a Tribune examination of tobacco-lawsuit documents has found.

Documents show Northfield-based Kraft collaborated on flavor issues with some of the same Philip Morris brain researchers who probed what gives cigarettes their kick. None of those scientists was more controversial than Frank Gullotta, a former top Philip Morris researcher whose brain experiments suggested the company knew more than it claimed about cigarettes' addictive nature.

The documents also reveal that Kraft and Philip Morris discussed investing jointly in brain scans to study how the brain processes tastes and smells. Food scientists even helped their tobacco counterparts make experimental cigarettes--working after-hours in a German coffee plant.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: antismoking; nannystate; pufflist; smoking; smokingbans; tobacco; waronfat
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Excerpted due to length. A long read, but worth it.

Here comes the $7 box of Mac & Cheese and the $40 pack of Oscar Meyer Weiners.

Hope all you anti-smoking gnatzis out there are happy.

1 posted on 02/01/2006 10:41:30 AM PST by elkfersupper
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To: SheLion; Gabz; freepatriot32; inneroutlaw

Ping.


2 posted on 02/01/2006 10:42:37 AM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

"Hope all you anti-smoking gnatzis out there are happy."




They will never be happy,never.

They are a miserable lot and have spent much of their time trying to make others as miserable as they are.


3 posted on 02/01/2006 10:48:09 AM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen-caviar and cigarettes.)
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To: Mears
You are correct, of course.

I can't imagine what it must be like to go through life like that, and be sanctimoniously proud of it at that.

4 posted on 02/01/2006 10:51:09 AM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Mears

liberal mindset- it's not fair until everyone is equally miserable and joyless.


5 posted on 02/01/2006 10:58:34 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: elkfersupper

If the prices end up jumping that much, the least they could do is throw a little nicotine into them.

Kraft Nic & Cheese


6 posted on 02/01/2006 11:03:53 AM PST by kenth
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To: elkfersupper
From the printer friendly version of the article:

Kraft, as a food company, was not compelled to release documents. But available records from Philip Morris, specifically from the files of tobacco employees, provide a tantalizing glimpse into the interplay between food and tobacco scientists.

Their collaboration on brain research "certainly sounds ominous," said Lloyd Kolbe, an Indiana University health sciences professor who served on a federal panel that reported last year on the marketing of junk food to children. "We need to understand the nature of that relationship," he said.

Oh my, it's "ominous" sounding!

As America grapples with an epidemic of obesity, some plaintiffs' lawyers would love to prove that junk food-makers manipulate their products to make it harder for customers to stop eating them.

Kraft has not been accused of such conduct in lawsuits. But other major food companies such as McDonald's have been sued for contributing to the obesity of children.

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Go to chicagotribune.com/oreo to read documents related to this story and the Tribune's three-part series, "The Oreo, obesity and us."

Mmmm, Oreos. Got Milk?

[snip]

7 posted on 02/01/2006 11:08:23 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: elkfersupper; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; nopardons; metesky; Mears; ...

To me this should be one great big SO WHAT?

I personally despise Philip Morris for selling out it's customer base to big government nannies..........but it makes perfect sense the scientists would be working together, particularly on issues involving the taste of a product.


8 posted on 02/01/2006 11:18:56 AM PST by Gabz
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To: Gabz



"THERE IS NO SAFE CIGARETTE." says PM.

Aaaaarrrggghhhh !!!!!




9 posted on 02/01/2006 11:22:36 AM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen-caviar and cigarettes.)
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To: Mears

Like I said...............


10 posted on 02/01/2006 11:23:27 AM PST by Gabz
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To: elkfersupper

Bracing for some real laughter at the fat smoke nazis when the war on obesity begins. Ever been asked to put out the smoke by someone who was so fat they could hardly walk?


11 posted on 02/01/2006 11:23:29 AM PST by mysterio
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To me this should be one great big SO WHAT?

You're not playing fair, Gabz. You should be outraged, ticked off, crying for the fat children, taken aback and ready to sue somebody!

Come on, girl, get incensed! :^)

12 posted on 02/01/2006 11:26:07 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver

ROFL!!!!!!!!!

At 5'10" and 120pounds I don't think I'm in much position to being suing anyone on behalf of fat people..........maybe I could sue them because I am NOT fat, Kraft foods obviously have kept me from gaining any weight.


13 posted on 02/01/2006 11:32:11 AM PST by Gabz
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To: mysterio
Ever been asked to put out the smoke by someone who was so fat they could hardly walk?

More often than not.

I use the unlit cigarette in the hand or mouth ploy to clear the fat chicks out of the candy aisle at the grocery store.

14 posted on 02/01/2006 11:32:46 AM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Gabz

because of the taste? ;)


15 posted on 02/01/2006 11:35:00 AM PST by patton (I don't regret the journey, but it is time to get off the train.)
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To: albertp; Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; AlexandriaDuke; Americanwolf; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; ...
the other shoe is getting ready to drop any day now.Maybe just maybe when they go after food the small government conservatives in this website that are all for smoking ban s will get outraged enough to try to put a stop to the nanny state.I've been warning them for years they wont stop with cigarettes they will eventually come after sometyhing you enjoy doing but they could never get past thier hatred of the foul smell of cigarettes to see the light.Are you listening pro smoking ban freepers......(crickets chirping)........(crickets chirping).

Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here

16 posted on 02/01/2006 11:37:36 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: elkfersupper; mysterio

I have a friend that has a very serious weight problem and is a non-smoker.

She is not an anti-smoker, she just doesn't smoke, and commented to me not an hour ago while we were on the phone that she has seen the handwriting on the wall and knows people like her are next after what has been done to the smokers. We were discussing another proposed tax increase on cigarettes in Virginia, and she said snack foods are next.

Pretty astute for a gal that isn't even 25 years old.


17 posted on 02/01/2006 11:39:13 AM PST by Gabz
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To: Gabz

Thanks for the ping!


18 posted on 02/01/2006 11:40:30 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: patton

LOL!!!!!

It's amazing just how many products are made by Kraft or at least fall under the Kraft label.

I was really suprised when I went to the website for Certo Pectin, and it is actually the Kraftfoods website. I may despise Philip Morris, but I have to commend Kraft customer relations..........I complained about jelly not setting up using their product, which is the ONLY pectin I have ever used for jelly. Not only did I get a very thoguhtful letter from them, but also a check to cover the cost of the 2 boxes of pectin that had failed, and coupons for 2 more boxes free.


19 posted on 02/01/2006 11:43:50 AM PST by Gabz
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To: Gabz; The Foolkiller; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; kattracks; ...
To me this should be one great big SO WHAT?

And you KNOW how "I" feel about this despicable company!

20 posted on 02/01/2006 11:44:17 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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