Posted on 02/01/2006 7:29:10 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida
In the court (and courts) of life and death, a little 11-year-old Massachusetts girl named Haleigh Poutre could be the next Terri Schiavo. For those who have not heard the tragic story, Haleigh was beaten nearly to death last September, allegedly by her adoptive mother and stepfather. The beating left her unconscious and barely clinging to life.
Within a week or so of the beating, her doctors had written her off. They apparently told Haleigh's court-appointed guardian, Harry Spence, that she was "virtually brain dead." Even though he had never visited her, Spence quickly went to court seeking permission to remove her respirator and feeding tube. The court agreed, a decision affirmed recently by the supreme court of Massachusetts.
And so, no doubt with the best of intentions, a little girl who had already suffered so much was stripped by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts of even the chance to fight to stay alive. If she didn't stop breathing when the respirator was removed, which doctors expected, she would slowly dehydrate to death.
Close Call
Then came the unexpected:
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...
That matches what I thought. I had suspected him of being a cereal killer.
A bit of an excerpt:
Pinellas' probate court judge Greer has done more, in our opinion, to erode the public confidence in the judiciary than any other judicial officer in the United States of America today.
EDITORIAL - Eroding Public Confidence
8mm
Media Bias in the Schiavo Case
8mm
The whole topic of Haleigh Poutre dropped off the news charts. I am hoping no news is good news, because that is what we are getting.
8mm
We're about ready for the vaudeville circuit, partner.
Check with Wampus. He can hook you up with a gig at the Florida Room Bar & Grille. Howard, the maintenance man, is used to sweeping up Fruit Loops & Coco Puffs. BYOC (bring your own cereal.)
**Just about everybody wanted to finish off a battered child, and only a few days after she was first brought to the hospital. **
Exactly. :( :( Early this morning I read the article in the Globe, without registering. Now they are requiring registration. The hits to their site have probably increased dramatically due to Haleigh. Seems like they are taking advantage of the interest in Haleigh, by now requiring registration information.
IIRC, one of the doctors who were quoted in the article, said she had lost her hearing and vision, among other things. Obviously he/she was wrong. Haleigh has since responded by picking up a specific toys, which requires both vision and hearing. No wonder they want to keep her records a secret. Weren't the doctors names also a secret?
If it were NOT for the abusing step-father's law suit, Haleigh might be dead right now, due to removal of her respirator and food and water. The step-father, whom I'm in no way defending, was the only person who filed suit to stop the DSS from killing Haleigh, which forced a delay in killing her.
The step-father's law suit was covered on Hannity's show sometime last month. Wendy Murphy (real mom's lawyer) and the step-father's lawyer were both guests on the show. As much as I've supported Hannity in the past, I was very disappointed by his interview of both lawyers. Hannity appeared to be more concerned, that the abuser be charged with murder, rather than being concerned about Haleigh's life and the DSS's desire to end her life.
Perhaps Hannity couldn't grasp the real facts of the case, or maybe I misunderstood his concern. I wonder if there is a transcript of the interview?? Getting the facts of case from the media is becoming more and more difficult. A good example is the current muslim cartoon coverage. The media, for the most part, neglects to mention who is behind the very organized riots. They focus, instead, on a Denmark cartoonist and blame him for starting the mess. When in reality, the worst cartoons were created by muslim imams, who toured the ME, with the intention of insiting hate and riots.
The MSM uses their powerful media to promote an agenda of death. In Terri's case they quoted a bogus poll which fasely stated the public's support of Terri's death. In fact, a later poll, showed just the opposite. I liked what FV pointed out. She reminded us of a FR poll, which showed an overwhelming majority on FreeRepublic were against Terri's court ordered death.
Inspite of the FR poll, a few freepers continue to post in support of Michael Schiavo. Some use State's Rights and the so called rule of law, as a reason to support Terri's death. Have they forgotten the State of Florida's law - Terri's Law. Where is their outrage over a very liberal Supreme Court of Florida, over-turning, Flordia's (STATE RIGHTS) legislature? Could this be what Delay meant by judical activism? hmmmmm
Gordon W Watts, while not an attorney, was able to convience at least some on the Florida Supreme Court, of the valididy of the law. The result of Watts' filing was 4-3. Sadly, it wasn't enough to uphold Terri's Law, but was better than what the governor received - a 7-0 ruling. Gordon was a hero in the fight to save Terri, imho. I hope some of the books written by her supporters, have reflected Gordon's heart felt work for Terri.
Several days ago, I wrote most of this post and probably wouldn't have posted it, until I realized it's still relevant. Both Terri and Haleigh's diagnosis were wrong concerning their vision, in addition to the PVS diagosis. Doctors are not gods, but only mere human beings. Some make mistakes, others deliberately distort their findings in order to promote an evil agenda of death. Cranford said one thing in the video of Terri concerning her abilities, but because of his favored status, his own words were not heard by the court. Thanks to bjs for pointing out this glaring outrage.
Congress was RIGHT to request a second look at Terri's case. Those who are now back-tracking on what they did, are fools. How can Frist be critized for expressing doubt over Terri's PVS diagnosis, without seeing her in person, when Greer NEVER saw Terri other than via video, but gave her a death sentence? What kind of insane logic is that?
" I listened to Carla Iyers tell her story verbally (Sean Hannity show? I forget) and was extremely impressed."
IIRC, I viewed Carla Iyers testimony before the Florida legislature. It was broadcasted live, here on the internet. She was very credible and I also was impressed by her.
One morning Carla appeared on Fox and Friends, Fox being the so called *fair and balanced* network, immediately followed her interview up by a death ghoul. Sorry I can't remember who it was. The so called expert did everything he could, to dis-credit Carla. I recall being very upset with Fox that morning.
So, the child is dead. The medical examiner up there said "natural causes", sickle cell anemia."
Here we go again. A child in state custody can be beaten to death and then get blamed for it? He was in state custody and a minor. He was killed while in state custody.
Nothing from Charlie Crist who is the chief law enforcement officer of the state. This is BLOOPER #2. Who knew Crist would make another fatal flaw by having the worse le in the nation.
ARRESTING CHILDREN at the Vigil and BEATING CHILDREN TO DEATH up in Panama City.
Jeb Bush is concerned. He should be. Florida is becoming known for judges starving disabled people and law enforcement torturing children in state custody.
Nobody's in charge here. S.O.S.
My 1130. There is NO EXCUSE for beating a child. NO EXCUSE. Child's last name I think was Robinson. Honors student. Dead after boot camp beating by a circle of sheriff's employees, black and white employees while a nurse looked on.
see 1130. Boy beaten at boot camp. Dies and the M.E. blames the kid for his death.
The 14 year old who was beaten by Fla deputies - Fox News is spinning it for the govt just like they spun various occurrences during Terri's Vigil. Fox is the govt's press agent. Seriesly. If O' Reilly gets upset about this dead kid, good for him but so far, Fox News is defending the large, adult deputies who beat the 14 year old child.
http://tboblogs.com/index.php/newswire/comments/video_released_in_boot_camp_death_case/
" Looks like the gathering of turkey vultures will not go so unnoticed as the bioethickists would wish. ProLifeBlogs does another reminder on it."
Thanks for the link from ProLifeBlogs. The following is from the link:
""Arthur Caplan did his best to taint the media, appearing on MSNBC, advocating her death, appearing before the House Judiciary Committee to testify against a federal review, testifying against House Bill 1151 "The Incapacitated Persons Legal Protection Act" which would have allowed federal intervention in cases like Schiavo's where state courts have ruled in favor of terminating life support.""
Speaking of NBC, did anyone else notice that one of the speakers at the conference is a representative of NBC. His talk will be on the role of the media.
From the conference schedule:
12:00pm – 1:30pm Lunch with Talk: The Role of the Media
Speaker: Robert Bazell, Chief Science and Health Correspondent, NBC News
8mm, thank you for sharing your personal experience of caring for your precious son until the age of 26. I'm so glad the doctors were wrong in their diagnosis of your son and you therefore had many more years with him, than they would have thought. I'm so sorry for your loss.
God bless you 8mm. Your continued efforts to get the truth out on these threads, are very much appreciated. I'll bet your son is cheering you on and so proud of you, as he watches from Heaven above.
What on earth is going on down there FV? I dug up the following before I seen your post, but maybe it is appropriate after all. It is the Mayo Clinic doctor who Jeb Bush sent to see Terri right before the killed her. He reported back to Jeb with this, but we all know what happened. Old news I know, but it is still worth reading again.
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>Mayo Clinic neurologist argues Schiavo is not in PVS
Cheshire writes, “To enter the room of Terri Schiavo is nothing like entering the room of a patient who is comatose or brain-dead or in some neurological sense no longer there. … As I looked at Terri, and she gazed directly back at me, I asked myself whether, if I were her attending physician, I could in good conscience withdraw her feeding and hydration. No, I could not. I could not withdraw life support if I were asked. I could not withhold life-sustaining nutrition and hydration from this beautiful lady whose face brightens in the presence of others.”
What a horrible tragedy, FV. I confused by why he was in the boot camp to begin with. I heard Fox report that he put in the camp due to a violation of probration? Why is the state putting kids into this boot camps?
A few years ago we had a situation concerning a boot camp here in my state. The boy was also only 14 years old. He looked even younger from the pictures showed by the media. In this case, the child passed out from being deprived of water and made to sit in the heat as some sort of punishment.
Instead of taking him to the doctor, the boot camp tried to handle it themselves by taking him to a motel and putting him in a shower. Which didn't help - the boy died. This happened in the middle of summer, out in the hot desert. At the time this happened, I couldn't understand why the parents would have voluntarily turn their child over to this boot camp. At the same time I felt very sorry for them. He was having some behavior problems and they thought being in this so called boot camp would help him. So sad.
The person who ran the boot camp was convicted and sent to prison. Hopefully those responsible for the boy's death in Florida will be brought to justice. Having an eye witness - the nurse, makes it more difficult for those who are saying his death was health related. I'm constantly amazed by the amount of news stories coming out of Florida. The percent of stories is way higher than the population of Florida should merit.
Please keep us posted on what's happening.
This is going to be a national story. Go and watch the videotape. He was outnumbered, he was down on the ground not doing anything, was limp in fact, and now he's dead at 14. It's a tragedy and a crime.
It was either Judge Greer or Judge Whittemore who would not allow Dr. Cheshire's opinion into evidence before they defied congress and the president and continued the evil deed of killing Terri.
If it's a state nurse, she's already been told to shut up. How many state nurses from ACHA changed their story re: Terri? At least ten.
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