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Discovery's Creation [The rise & fall of the Discovery Institute]
Seattle Weekly ^ | 01 February 2006 | Roger Downey

Posted on 02/01/2006 6:32:25 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: shuckmaster

Who or what is this god you refer to and why does he need you to presume to speak for him?

 

NIV 1 Peter 4:11
   If anyone speaks, he should do it as one speaking the very words of God. If anyone serves, he should do it with the strength God provides, so that in all things God may be praised through Jesus Christ. To him be the glory and the power for ever and ever. Amen.


NIV 2 Corinthians 13:2-3
 2.  I already gave you a warning when I was with you the second time. I now repeat it while absent: On my return I will not spare those who sinned earlier or any of the others,
 3.  since you are demanding proof that Christ is speaking through me. He is not weak in dealing with you, but is powerful among you.

 

NIV Matthew 10:18-20
 18.  On my account you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles.
 19.  But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say,
 20.  for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.


NIV Mark 13:10-11
 10.  And the gospel must first be preached to all nations.
 11.  Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit.




NIV Acts 4:29
  Now, Lord, consider their threats and enable your servants to speak your word with great boldness.
 

NIV Acts 18:9
   One night the Lord spoke to Paul in a vision: "Do not be afraid; keep on speaking, do not be silent.



 

 


61 posted on 02/01/2006 12:06:53 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Presenting facts is bullying to American Creationists.

Likewise...

Presenting Scripture is threatening to American Evolutionists.

62 posted on 02/01/2006 12:09:04 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: unlearner
BTW, a good friend of mine is completing his doctorate in molecular biology, and he told me he does not embrace common descent. I think he may understand biology and genetics since a major medical institution is employing him to research cancer.

Maybe his was a social promotion.

63 posted on 02/01/2006 12:09:13 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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To: Elsie
Then there's been a whole LOTTA separatin' been goin' on over the millineums!

Um, yes. There have been.

64 posted on 02/01/2006 12:10:56 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Elsie
Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground...
65 posted on 02/01/2006 12:11:39 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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To: Junior
 

 The Wall
"In death, all men are equal"
 
 
In Judgement, some will have an Advocate.

66 posted on 02/01/2006 12:11:42 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Right Wing Professor

Pages?

You must use a large font.


67 posted on 02/01/2006 12:12:49 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
Presenting Scripture Pretending that Scripture is scientific fact is threatening to American Evolutionists.

Fixed it for you.

68 posted on 02/01/2006 12:13:13 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground...

Yup, or like this:

... And the LORD God formed man of the items in the Table of Elements...

69 posted on 02/01/2006 12:15:57 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Right Wing Professor
then just don't wead them, baby. No one's going to make you.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make 'em think...

70 posted on 02/01/2006 12:17:01 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: PatrickHenry

Anything written by the Seattle Weekly is total and complete garbage. I would think FR would ban postings from the Seattle Weekly, just like from the DU (same thing, probably the same authors).


71 posted on 02/01/2006 12:18:32 PM PST by microgood
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To: highball
Pretending that Scripture the E's interpretation of the 'fossil record' is the ONLY scientific fact is arrogant.
72 posted on 02/01/2006 12:18:43 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
...somehow geographically separated ...

Then there's been a whole LOTTA separatin' been goin' on over the millineums!

YES! You finally get it!

73 posted on 02/01/2006 12:21:46 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

"Maybe his was a social promotion."

I'm sure common descent was not an issue that came up in his job interview. Why don't you petition medical and other scientific institutions to screen applicants by having them swear they affirm common descent? My friend couldn't possibly do his job without believing in common descent, right?

He also said he knew many others who share his view. I personally do not work in that field, so I do not know first hand.

Universal common descent is nonessential to any science. What consequences would there be of it being untrue?

Apparently there are more than a few fervent believers in universal common descent who elevate it to the level of causality or logic or mathematics. It is not just a tenet of their science, it is an axiom of it. It is the measure of all else.


74 posted on 02/01/2006 12:26:40 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner
Why don't you petition medical and other scientific institutions to screen applicants by having them swear they affirm common descent?

Will they have a better sense of humor?

75 posted on 02/01/2006 12:30:25 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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To: Syncretic

Bravo.


76 posted on 02/01/2006 12:32:05 PM PST by Tolkien (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

"Will they have a better sense of humor?"

Well, UCD is a joke.


77 posted on 02/01/2006 12:34:11 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Elsie
Pretending that Scripture the E's interpretation of the 'fossil record' is the ONLY scientific fact is arrogant.

Have you another interpretation that addresses the evidence?

If so, we'd love to hear it.

78 posted on 02/01/2006 12:34:13 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: PatrickHenry

Yes, I saw the headline when I was walking by the paper box coming back from Nordstrom.

And Seattle is Discovery institutes home town like Sodom was Lotts home town. The article did not surprise me in the least.


79 posted on 02/01/2006 12:35:45 PM PST by RobRoy
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To: longshadow
Argument from the authority of an expert but unnamed uncle placemarker.
80 posted on 02/01/2006 12:35:59 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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