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Discovery's Creation [The rise & fall of the Discovery Institute]
Seattle Weekly ^ | 01 February 2006 | Roger Downey

Posted on 02/01/2006 6:32:25 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: editor-surveyor; AndrewC
Once again the evo's find themselves on the same side with lib's.

I got it from Bill Burkett at the Kinko's

Good one.

361 posted on 02/03/2006 5:49:43 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: AndrewC
Dr. Stephen C. Meyer is not still teaching at Whitworth College; he resigned four years ago (that’s why we don’t list this on our website).

Then maybe Dr. Stephen C. Meyer ought to update his bio on the Access Research Network.

Contrary to Judge John E. Jones' opinion, there are at least seven peer-reviewed articles supportive of intelligent design, as Roger (and the judge) could have seen by reading our amicus brief in the Dover case, or check our website.

Well Dadgumit! Why didn't Prof. Behe say so?

Q. And, in fact, there are no peer reviewed articles by anyone advocating for intelligent design supported by pertinent experiments or calculations which provide detailed rigorous accounts of how intelligent design of any biological system occurred, is that correct?

A. That is correct, yes.
-- Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District Trial transcript: Day 12 (October 19), AM Session, Part 1

... as some secret plan (now expanded by Downey to a "founding document") actually shows how puerile and paranoid Darwinists are when faced with opposition. Downey reports that the paper was stamped "TOP SECRET" and "NOT FOR DISTRIBUTION" ...

Yeah. They did overdo that ...

This isn't just wrong, it is stunningly wrong. There was no such conference about ID at Baylor University in 1992.

True enough. It was at SMU

ID originated long before that, ...

Thomas Aquinus and William Paley sure think so.

... at numerous places where scientists like Dean Kenyon, Charles Thaxton, Walter Bradley and others were developing and researching the theory. Discovery's Center for Science & Culture was started in 1995 not 1998.

Yep. 1995.

But psst ...
I wouldn't say that too loud, guys ... I mean, Don'cha think seven research papers in eleven years is kinda thin?

362 posted on 02/03/2006 5:57:55 AM PST by dread78645 (Intelligent Design. It causes people to misspeak)
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To: PatrickHenry

They need to have think tanks now to figure out that there is an intelligent design in nature?


363 posted on 02/03/2006 6:05:03 AM PST by Porterville (They took our jobs!!! Der dook er jibs!!! Deer took er jabs!!!)
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To: LiteKeeper
Urban myths - totally untrue.

Untrue? Really?

Are you denying that the school board members in Dover

Are you denying that Dr Behe, the foremost proponent of ID

That's all public record. One need only read the transcripts to see these inept crooks getting caught in their lies.

Or do you deny that creationists have been overwhelmingly silent when it comes to condemning such tactics in the service of their cause? If that's the case, which creationists (individuals or organizations, no need to be picky) have come out publicly to denounce these liars?

What part of my post was an "urban myth?" What part was "totally untrue"?

365 posted on 02/03/2006 6:46:13 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Skywalk
I'll wait for creationist whining about Elsie's 'spam' posts...

You're going to be waiting a very long time, I think.

366 posted on 02/03/2006 6:54:20 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: highball
we still haven't seen that alternative "interpretation" ...

Oh, you have too!

You guys just dismiss everything that is not according to the current ToE thinking.


(I served on a jury once for a quite vicious crime, and I can attest to what you are saying! They tended to question the victim's motives [who was kidnapped, shot and then RAPED!], the DNA evidence and the fact that the money that was stolen from her was not found, 4 days later!)

367 posted on 02/03/2006 6:55:25 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
we still haven't seen that alternative "interpretation" ...

Oh, you have too!

We have yet to see one that actually addresses the evidence. The only ones put forward require us to discard evidence.

If you have one, kindly set it out there for us to see. This sense of secrecy does not become an intellectual pursuit - having to hide ideas hardly speaks well of them.

368 posted on 02/03/2006 7:00:09 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: furball4paws

Fooey on the son: Where's them darn SKIS!!?!?


I just checked my map. It appears you are near Animas Forks, Maggie Gulch, Silverton, Purgatory?


369 posted on 02/03/2006 7:02:29 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: narby
But since you've convinced me that Genesis must be read literally, and there's no way Genesis happened literally, then the only possible answer is that it was written by untrained herders because they were bored.

1 Timothy 2:13
For Adam was formed first, then Eve.

This ain't Genesis.

370 posted on 02/03/2006 7:04:00 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: dread78645

;^)


371 posted on 02/03/2006 7:04:29 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: furball4paws

Call me Weird; but I LIKE getting rid of snow!


(Now, when I'm all tuckered out, it does tend to get a bit less fun...)


372 posted on 02/03/2006 7:05:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: highball
Extremely long?

But I include lots of white space!

373 posted on 02/03/2006 7:06:43 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: highball

Him...


(you can be more aggressive now...)


374 posted on 02/03/2006 7:07:09 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: hail to the chief
Ummm, you were just responding to your friend's strawman quote, as if he was a living, breathing evolutionist.

AHhh...

I see!


Us 'friends' gotta stick together, you see.

375 posted on 02/03/2006 7:09:08 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: plain talk

Just watch...

I'll get zapped for SHORT posts, too! ;^)


376 posted on 02/03/2006 7:09:51 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Skywalk; highball; plain talk; andysandmikesmom
I'll wait for creationist whining about Elsie's 'spam' posts...

At least with mine, you get to do your OWN analysis of the DATA!

377 posted on 02/03/2006 7:13:47 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: highball
This sense of secrecy does not become an intellectual pursuit...

Neither do these schoolyard recess challenges you come up with.


We have yet to see one that actually addresses the evidence.

You've not been looking.

378 posted on 02/03/2006 7:16:56 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

Silverton is about 30 miles as the raven flies. We ended up with 26" and I had to dig out the dog's side of the yard - the dogs are not big and now have a 7' high wall of snow on the other side of the fence. It's a weird feeling.

Today bright and sunny, O/N low about -3. It'll be in the 30's and this stuff will start to melt.

And for those that are worried the teenager copped "Ive got too much homework" and got out of it altogether. Of course it took him 2 hours to get home from school which is only 1 block away, but hey, he took the long way so his big feet wouldn't get wet.


379 posted on 02/03/2006 7:25:40 AM PST by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: Syncretic

Thanks for the ping. Good analysis of existance without God. Realization of that is what finally turned me to Him.


380 posted on 02/03/2006 7:39:03 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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