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To: jmc813

Rudy will back off on the gun issue. He will say that he had to take this position in New York City. I don't see this as a problem.


165 posted on 02/01/2006 12:17:12 PM PST by Oldhunk
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To: Oldhunk

then you cant believe or trust him.

no dice Rudy


166 posted on 02/01/2006 1:14:00 PM PST by Vaquero (time again for the Crusades.)
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To: Oldhunk

[Rudy will back off on the gun issue. He will say that he had to take this position in New York City. I don't see this as a problem.]

This is correct. Heartlanders need to remember the history of New York. It was occupied by the British during almost the entire Revolutionary War (shortly after July 4th, 1776 it was captured). New Yorkers were held hostage. They started to think of the place like a saloon or gentleman's club where you checked your weapons at the door.

Some western cities also had laws that said "check your weapon with the sheriff" when within a certain downtown area.

That doesn't mean that New Yorkers felt that suburbanites or southern farmers or western ranchers shouldn't have guns. They understand the ready militia concept. They understand that the people have to be ready to fight a corrupt government some day.

They banned guns because they only black criminals had them at the time. That was their only thought. And it wasn't a stupid thought either. They knew that THEY didn't want to carry guns themselves around Manhattan. There were very few whites who wanted to pack a pistol around town to protect themselves from muggers (unless a law wasn't passed). They KNEW that FReepers from the south and west were not going to be tourists ready to protect them if they got mugged. They also knew that the black kids DID carry guns around and had a desire to rob people.

Sometimes you do the opposite thing in one place and time that you would do in another.

Then of course, Son of Sam was white and, when he bought his second .45...he was suspicious as all heck...and the woman behind the counter was lackadaisical about it. That one gunhandler's irresponsibility ruined it for a lot of gunhandlers.

But Republicans in New York City were not agains the right to bear arms in 99% of the USA. They just felt Manhattan, surrounded on all sides by water, didn't need to fit the militia model the rest of the country was founded on...especially considering the history of New York City as having been completely shut out of the Revolutionary War do to an early capture by the British.


167 posted on 02/01/2006 1:59:31 PM PST by GermanBusiness
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