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To: Chunga

[Democrats despise Rudy. They know he'd wipe Hillary off the presidential political landscape forever and deny her the chance of transforming this country into Vichy France.]

The African American community would probably be whipped up to remember how Rudy got black loiterers out of the Port Authority and off of 42nd and 86th street in the early 90s.

I just remembered...black gangs owned 86th street on Manhattan's East Side in 1989...but were nowhere to be found in 1999.

Giuliani literally saved New York City...and a decade before 9-11.

Giuliani had the support of most whites, including liberals at the time when black muggers thought they owned the place.

One of the most famous incidents and strategies, one that would be continually played by the Democrats if he runs for President...was that Rudy had a strategy vs crime that went like this:

It wasn't enough to get minority loiterers (criminals and drug dealers) off of 42nd Street and 86th Street and back into their own neighborhoods.

Giuliani sent white people (undercover cops) into black neighborhoods AT NIGHT...

to just walk around, look lost maybe. Eat an ice cream cone while meandering down the street.

Any jackass that tried to rob them or harrass them for being white...was instantly put face down into the sidewalk and sent to prison.

Very, very soon it became known among black men not to be unfriendly with a white person in their black neighborhoods. I could then walk around myself up in Harlem and not feel threatened.

One night a group of white guys (cops) was walking around when they made the mistake of thinking that a black man was reaching for a gun (it was a cell phone). They fired 40 shots into him. It was a horrible mistake.

But the mistake didn't make the strategy of sending whites into black neighborhoods wrong.

Because the message got across: no violence against whites will be tolerated anywhere, especially if we decide to walk into your neighborhoods.

In the late 90s when I owned an Internet company in NY, I often took black-owned limos to the 125th Street train station to catch trains going north. The 125th Street station is in the very heart of black Harlem.

I never felt in danger because Giuliani had been mayor for 9 years already. The black people seemed to be going about their business and having lives...I never saw anymore drug dealers or dangerous looking "youths"...even in the heart of Harlem.

Ten years before, I would never have even considered getting on or off at the 125th street station of the northern train system.

Bush's Iraq Strategy is almost exactly Giulianis strategy of sending white folks into black neighborhoods to teach the other side that violence is wrong, even in your own neighborhood.


146 posted on 02/01/2006 8:21:53 AM PST by GermanBusiness
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To: GermanBusiness

Your right...lets make Rudy Mayor of NY again. He reached his pinacle there but considering his views he has no business running in a national election as a republican.


149 posted on 02/01/2006 8:23:59 AM PST by Vaquero (time again for the Crusades.)
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To: GermanBusiness
Giuliani literally saved New York City...and a decade before 9-11.

Fine, it you live in NYC.

But most Republicans don't live in NYC and wouldn't live there if they were paid to. The Republican party can't win without social conservatives and pro-2nd amendment voters. Rudy would frighten those voters into staying home on election day.

I don't believe that Rudy would bring in enough moderates to offset the losses from the social conservative camp. Most of those so-called centrists or moderates are really Democrats at heart who aren't quite as far to the left as the Reid/Kennedy/Pelosi/Dean majority wing of the party. They pretend to be on the fence at every election because IMHO they think it makes them appear to be non-committed deep thinkers who carfully weigh all the pros and cons and then decide logically and unemotionally how they will vote. But after all that head scratching and beard stroking, at every election 75-85% of them vote for the Democrat just as they knew they would all along.

204 posted on 02/01/2006 10:54:49 PM PST by epow (Life is not a choice, it's a gift.)
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