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Panel: Teflon Chemical a Likely Carcinogen
Associated Press ^ | Mon Jan 30, 2006 | RANDALL CHASE

Posted on 01/31/2006 3:13:13 PM PST by presidio9

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To: presidio9

The EPA is crooked, dirty and filled with communists.


21 posted on 01/31/2006 4:48:28 PM PST by sergeantdave (And on the second day The Lord created February - the slowest month of the year.)
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To: presidio9

"The EPA also wants the industry to work toward the elimination of PFOA and related chemicals from emissions and products by no later than 2015"

if it's not in the final product, why would anybody (including dupont) object to eliminating it from products by 2015?


22 posted on 01/31/2006 4:48:58 PM PST by drhogan
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To: sergeantdave

Kind of like the rest of DC.


23 posted on 01/31/2006 4:50:43 PM PST by ovrtaxt ("I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born."- Reagan)
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To: Pukin Dog

"Teflon is safe if heated in combination with Crisco, Cornmeal and Catfish fillets."


I'm afraid I'll have to verify that for myself. 7 O'clock okay? I'll bring the hushpuppies and cold beer. ;)


24 posted on 01/31/2006 4:54:44 PM PST by DemforBush
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To: calljack

If you put your coffemaker on the stove burner, and set fire to it, it will kill everyone in the house.


25 posted on 01/31/2006 4:55:44 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (When I learn everything, I will know nothing.)
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To: ovrtaxt

The Rapanos case will be in front of the USSC this spring. The EPA engaged in extortion, perjury, trespassing and civil rights violations.

What will come out in this case will offer an opportunity for Congress to clean out that filthy hellhole of goosestepping communists. But the castrated poodles in congress are afraid that cleaning out that den of Marxist pigs would upset the brainless soccer moms who send $25 to the fascists at the Sierra Club.


26 posted on 01/31/2006 5:24:05 PM PST by sergeantdave (And on the second day The Lord created February - the slowest month of the year.)
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To: sergeantdave

Sounds like you hate commies as much as I do. Go Sarge!


27 posted on 01/31/2006 5:26:36 PM PST by ovrtaxt ("I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born."- Reagan)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Thank you for the reply.


28 posted on 01/31/2006 6:01:44 PM PST by Steveone (Liberalism is a brain tumor!)
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To: presidio9

Down With Teflon!

Vive La Stainless Steel!

Vive La Pan Sauce!


29 posted on 01/31/2006 6:03:40 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: calljack

I remember that too...I have one teflon pan which is quite oversized and easy to clean, but I could just as easily go back to using a seasoned iron pan.


30 posted on 01/31/2006 6:37:46 PM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Let me guess, the panel was composed of a greenpeace member, a ALF member and a ELF member.

More than likely, it was made up of benefactors of the Trial Lawyers who are just finishing off the asbestos industry, and cannot wait for peer-reviewed studies which might slow things down on the looting and plunder schedule.

ANY polymer (Nylon, Acetal, and especially PVC) will pyrolize to yeild toxic compounds. At a higher temperature, PTFE* can as well.

This one is just too easy to penetrate.


* telomer.

31 posted on 02/04/2006 7:55:47 AM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: Gorzaloon
ANY polymer (Nylon, Acetal, and especially PVC) will pyrolize to yeild toxic compounds. At a higher temperature, PTFE* can as well.

Most material people use can turn toxic then heated (beyond recommend standard)/burned, from wood, to ceramics to plastics.

And it is the enviro-nazis leading the charge on this (as reported by Fox News a few weeks ago), not the trial lawyers.

32 posted on 02/04/2006 12:32:00 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Gorzaloon
ANY polymer (Nylon, Acetal, and especially PVC) will pyrolize to yeild toxic compounds. At a higher temperature, PTFE* can as well.

Most material people use can turn toxic when heated (beyond recommend standard)/burned, from wood, to ceramics to plastics.

And it is the enviro-nazis leading the charge on this (as reported by Fox News a few weeks ago), not the trial lawyers.

33 posted on 02/04/2006 12:32:12 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: calljack
I have heard that if you put a teflon pan on the stove and really overheat it, to the point that it is burning up, it will release enough toxic crap to kill birds you may have in your house. Any truth to this or is it an urban legend??

That is absolutely true. I worked for many years in a PTFE manufacturing plant. Burning PTFE emits very toxic gases. It releases Phosgene, PFIB, and other assorted nasties. Unlikely to kill an person, but it could pose a heath hazard.

Google "Fluon Fever"

34 posted on 02/04/2006 12:39:31 PM PST by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: Fzob

Learning how to cook properly and not burning the tflon plan would probably solve the problem........


35 posted on 02/04/2006 12:42:32 PM PST by Gabz
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To: presidio9

I work in this industry. PFOA's are used in the manufacturing process, and there is almost none left over in the product seen by consummers. The main concern presently is that PFOA is a bioaccumulater. I.e. your body cannot get rid of it easily. To date most of the concern in industry is based on legal liabilities rather than medical or health liabilities to the consumer.

PFOA are a legitimate health concern of workers, but not for consumers. Also to make this even more complicated there are no good alternative product to replace PFOA's at this time. There are some, but without some breakthrough in the future many important elastomer products will vanish with a ban on C-8.


36 posted on 02/04/2006 12:47:59 PM PST by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: Gabz

I agree, I've yet to pick up the paper and read about the family that died because the frying pan was coated with PTFE.


37 posted on 02/04/2006 12:50:14 PM PST by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: calljack
I have not used teflon pans in years because of my birds.
38 posted on 02/04/2006 12:52:01 PM PST by tiredoflaundry (I'll admit it , I'm a Snow Flake !(Snoq) The rest of my tagline redacted by court order.)
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To: Fzob

Same here.

Personally I have very little faith in the EPA.


39 posted on 02/04/2006 12:59:02 PM PST by Gabz
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To: presidio9

If I die, I die, just as long as my eggs don't stick.


40 posted on 02/04/2006 1:00:49 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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