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1 posted on 01/30/2006 11:23:15 AM PST by jmc1969
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2 posted on 01/30/2006 11:25:07 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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Sooner or later, the Sunni's will figure out that the US is not leaving as long as the insurgents are there. I think that their new strategy will be to go along with the US until we leave. And then they'll go back to fighting the Shi'ites.


3 posted on 01/30/2006 11:27:21 AM PST by TravisBickle (The War on Terror: Win It There or Fight It Here)
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The Iraqi Sunnis are slowly beginning to realize that those claiming to be on their side aren't. It's about them gaining power and not getting it back for the Sunnis. These guys ALWAYS bite the hand that feed them when it comes down to it. Now if we can get them to come to the conclusion Iran is running the same game on them we can shut them out also.


4 posted on 01/30/2006 11:29:29 AM PST by SCHROLL (Liberalism isn't a political philosophy - it's a mental illness)
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I've heard this before, I think it could also just be Sunnis using Al Queda for political cover.

When I see all of Al Queda in Iraq, and for that matter all of Iran's agents, arrested and/or executed by the legal Iraqi government/military, then I'll pay attention. Sunnis know who and where they are, I guarrantee it.


5 posted on 01/30/2006 11:32:18 AM PST by wvobiwan (It's OUR Net! If you don't like it keep your stanky routers off it!)
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6 posted on 01/30/2006 11:37:45 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Super Man wears Jack Bauer pajamas)
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Quote from ABC (dino news):

"If the trend continues, it can act to complete the integration of the Sunni minority into the political process, weaken the violent insurgency, and reduce attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces."

Left off of the quote but easily read to the end of it: "Damn It!!!!"


7 posted on 01/30/2006 11:38:57 AM PST by FlipWilson
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Personally, I expect that the Sunnis will rat Zarqawi out to the coalition, if not whack him themselves.


8 posted on 01/30/2006 11:39:55 AM PST by Maceman (Fake but accurate -- and now double-sourced)
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I agree with the thrust of the article, we reached the tipping point about 6 weeks ago. However, this quote:

"The pan-Arab al Hayat newspaper reported on Friday that the campaign against the group had so far resulted in the arrest of 270 Arab and foreign "infiltrators" and a number of Iraqis, according to the leader of Al Karabla tribes in al Qa'em. An army officer told the paper that most of those arrested were Jordanians, Saudis and Syrians."

...is suspect, according to Bill Roggio, who has been pretty dependable on these matters. The report may be propaganda by Iraqi media, which is just fine with me, but the US military is not confirming the report as late as yesterday.

www.billroggio.com
9 posted on 01/30/2006 11:44:43 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Regime change in Iran and Syria is required, and required now.)
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Liberating Iraq BUMP!

Very good news. The end of the road for Zarqawi in Anbar,
and the 'light at the end of the tunnel' for Iraqi peace.


10 posted on 01/30/2006 11:50:51 AM PST by WOSG
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Sounds like resistance to these vermin is paying dividends. Unlike the appeasement proposed by certain parties from the other side of the aisle ...


12 posted on 01/30/2006 11:51:47 AM PST by IronJack
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The Sunnis are chasing the al Zarqawi men from all over the al Anbar Province.

If true, that would be good news for the Iraqi people as a whole and their new government. But, it would be bad news for al-Zarqawi, al-Qaeda, and the democratic party in the U.S.
13 posted on 01/30/2006 12:07:33 PM PST by adorno
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"An army officer told the paper that most of those arrested were Jordanians, Saudis and Syrians."

Perhaps I'm naïve, but wouldn't it be worth it for the U. S. to provide the equipment, expertise, and personnel to provide every Iraqi citizen with a biometric ID card? I realize this would have to be approved by the Iraqi government.


17 posted on 01/30/2006 2:22:32 PM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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"The Sunni campaign against al Zarqawi may represent the only way to eject al Zarqawi and his violent jihadists from Iraq since combat operations against the group by U.S. forces have failed to stop the terrorist attacks."

This is an incomplete view. U. S. forces have been kicking the crap out of the Anwahr province. Surely this is part of the motivation the Sunnis have for getting rid of al Qaeda there. ABC is making it sound like we should stop operations and just let the Sunnis take over. Seems to me like it's just the opposite. Increase the tempo of the operations to get more of the successful indirect effect.

Presumably, some of the Al Qaeda are being moved to other provinces from Anwhar. Maybe we can hit some of them before they settle in. It seems like there would be a period of high vulnerability right after such a move. Sort of like the first few seconds when a chameleon moves to a new spot.


18 posted on 01/30/2006 2:26:48 PM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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My son is on his way home from Iraq.

It is his third time over there.


24 posted on 01/30/2006 7:28:56 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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All you have to do is prove to the Shieks that they can get richer by becoming traders than they are as smugglers and you've won.

As to the "insurgents" they will either become a functioning part of society or the tribes will slaughter them.

The most effective thing they could do is arrange for a week long trip for all the tribal shieks up to the Kurdish area where democracy already has a firm hold and they will be the strongest supporters of democracy in Iraq.

25 posted on 01/30/2006 7:49:04 PM PST by McGavin999 (If Intelligence Agencies can't find leakers, how can we expect them to find terrorists?)
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The implications are tremendous for Iraq, the American military presence in Iraq, and the war against al Qaeda. The tide has seemed to turn against the al Zarqawi network in Iraq

I'm stunned, that ABC actually said this.

29 posted on 01/31/2006 5:46:56 PM PST by pfflier
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