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To: SheLion
If restaurant employees are concerned about smoke in their workplace, for once they're fortunate to be in a transient and fluid industry where there are other places to work for qualified staff.

But, the same could be said of mine workers. If they don't like the conditions, they're free to find other work. The government has no business telling mine owners how to run their mines. Right?

(Don't get me wrong. I think the second-hand smoke argument is questionable at best. Since worker safety is the ONLY possible justification for such government intrusion, opponents should focus on debunking the second-hand smoke claims.)

6 posted on 01/30/2006 8:39:41 AM PST by newgeezer (Sarcasm content: 50.00%)
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To: newgeezer

"But, the same could be said of mine workers. If they don't like the conditions, they're free to find other work. The government has no business telling mine owners how to run their mines. Right?"

Um, yes, at least at the federal level. The only thing government intrusion has done is caused a sense of security that just can not exist. It is impossible to make mines 100% safe for the worker, but with government intrusion the worker, and society, can think they are safer than they are. As a result, they don't get true market driven wages. Wages that reflect the risk they take.

Government intrusion has harmed the mine workers, more than it has helped them. The same will happen in the restaurant/bar business.


10 posted on 01/30/2006 8:45:51 AM PST by CSM (Lick a finger, politicize the wind, and place the finger into the wind. - EGPWS, 1/26/2006)
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To: newgeezer
(Don't get me wrong. I think the second-hand smoke argument is questionable at best. Since worker safety is the ONLY possible justification for such government intrusion, opponents should focus on debunking the second-hand smoke claims.)

It HAS been debunked.  Over and over again.  And even by the WHO!

WHO Abstract

and:

Oak Ridge Labs, TN & SECOND HAND SMOKE 

Statistics and Data Sciences Group Projects

I think any anti who tries to dismiss the findings of the U.S. Department of Energy labs at Oak Ridge, should be confronted with the question: "Are you saying that DOE researchers committed scientific fraud and that their findings on ETS exposure are untrue?"

17 posted on 01/30/2006 9:03:38 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: newgeezer; Hittman
" . . . opponents should focus on debunking the second-hand smoke claims.)"

It was debunked a long time ago by the Supreme Court, but tyrants never let the facts get in the way when someone drags a hundred-dollar bill past their door.

19 posted on 01/30/2006 9:05:37 AM PST by Eastbound
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