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Dell to Hire 5,000 People in India
AP ^ | 1-30-06 | RAJESH MAHAPATRA

Posted on 01/30/2006 7:24:12 AM PST by Fawn

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To: Toddsterpatriot
How is my purchase of low priced goods, saving money to be spent on my family, having no regard for the future?

Once we become dependent on these "low priced goods", and the manufacturers thereof move to foreign countries, which may or may not be our "friends", and the skills here lost, why should the prices stay low?

How are my profitable foreign investments, reducing current consumption, living for a momentary gain?

Investing in foreign enrichment instead of the enrichment of you own fellow countrymen means the degradation of the opportunities of your fellow countrymen. This may work for the moment.

141 posted on 01/30/2006 4:39:00 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: oceanview

What fields are they going into ???


142 posted on 01/30/2006 4:39:49 PM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: MD_Willington_1976

law, business, finance, education. if not for the matriculation of foreign nationals, US engineering programs would be closing down in droves if they had to rely only on american enrollments.


143 posted on 01/30/2006 4:42:41 PM PST by oceanview
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To: evangmlw
Had a similar experience with AOL Customer Service, I do not have AOL as a provider now

I wrote AOL an email and asked them where they got off calling themselves 'AMERICA on line' when they send their jobs to India. Never did get a reply.

144 posted on 01/30/2006 5:10:27 PM PST by Fawn
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To: William Terrell
Once we become dependent on these "low priced goods", and the manufacturers thereof move to foreign countries, which may or may not be our "friends", and the skills here lost, why should the prices stay low?

If their prices rise too high, they will lose the manufacturing jobs they gained.

Investing in foreign enrichment instead of the enrichment of you own fellow countrymen means the degradation of the opportunities of your fellow countrymen.

Do you feel the same way about foreigners who invest in the US instead of their own country? Are they enriching the US and degrading the opportunity of their fellow countrymen?

145 posted on 01/30/2006 6:01:47 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
If their prices rise too high, they will lose the manufacturing jobs they gained.

And if the manufacturing capability is there and not here, how exactly will they lose the jobs?

Do you feel the same way about foreigners who invest in the US instead of their own country? Are they enriching the US and degrading the opportunity of their fellow countrymen?

I don't feel anything about it, but I think they should invest in their own country. And their investment in the US is not good fro the US. Yes, they are enriching themselves at the expense of fellow countrymen, and doing America no good.

What will the situation be, I wonder, when a critical mass of this country is owned by foreign powers.

146 posted on 01/30/2006 6:49:27 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
And if the manufacturing capability is there and not here, how exactly will they lose the jobs?

The same way you claim we are losing the jobs.

I don't feel anything about it, but I think they should invest in their own country. And their investment in the US is not good fro the US. Yes, they are enriching themselves at the expense of fellow countrymen, and doing America no good.

So, let me see if I understand your point. If an American invests abroad it's bad for America but good for the foreign country? If a foreigner invests in America it's bad for his own country and bad for America?

What will the situation be, I wonder, when a critical mass of this country is owned by foreign powers.

I'm curious what you think that critical % would be? What do you think the current % would be?

147 posted on 01/30/2006 7:03:38 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: William Terrell; Toddsterpatriot
I think they should invest in their own country. And their investment in the US is not good fro the US. Yes, they are enriching themselves at the expense of fellow countrymen, and doing America no good.

The well being of the US is important.  Please tell if you think I have harmed the US.  In Sept. 2003 I gave $11,300 to a bunch of Brazilians for part of a Brazilian cell phone company (Tele Centro Oeste Celular Part. SA).  Two months later I sold it back to them for $13,700.   I got to keep $1,800 to spend on American goods and the rest went to pay for federal taxes to bring down the national debt.

If you think this is bad for the US please tell me how.  I just bought some more stock in the same company and the price is already soaring --I need to know if you think I should sell it now before the price goes any higher.  Keep in mind that every time I do this I make the trade deficit worsen, as the only way Brazilians can get these dollars to give me is by selling their products cheaper and cheaper.

148 posted on 01/31/2006 6:20:10 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: Toddsterpatriot
The same way you claim we are losing the jobs.

If the manufacturing capability is there and not here, where will we go to get a better price?

So, let me see if I understand your point. If an American invests abroad it's bad for America but good for the foreign country? If a foreigner invests in America it's bad for his own country and bad for America?

I couldn't care less what is good for a foreign country. I care about what is good for America. Do you live in America?

Tell me, why should America become dependent on world trade, instead of manufacturing in American and trading with each other?

149 posted on 01/31/2006 6:24:36 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: The_Victor
" I guess you could boycott Dell, but I happen to like inexpensive computers"

I guess you could make a case for this but only if you ignore the total cost of shipping jobs out of the country. Pay me now or pay me (via taxes) later.

I have seen many companies go down the tubes because they focused on price and not costs. They are very different things.

150 posted on 01/31/2006 6:24:42 AM PST by Wurlitzer (The difference between democrats and terrorists is the terrorists don't claim to support the troops)
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To: CodeToad

"India sure as Hell wouldn't want Americans in India."

Then all those gated communities for American GE employees throughout India are illusions?


151 posted on 01/31/2006 6:25:45 AM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: William Terrell
I care about what is good for America.

Hey, how about that; me too --small world!  So that means if we do business overseas and we make Americans rich then that's OK with you?

152 posted on 01/31/2006 6:35:25 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
Why didn't you put your $11,300 into an American investment to get an American company up and going? Sure, you made $1,800 to spend here, but you have improved a foreign economy with a viable business instead of America.

Tell me, why should America become dependent on world trade, instead of manufacturing in American and trading with each other? What's the point?

153 posted on 01/31/2006 6:55:33 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
Why didn't you put your $11,300 into an American investment to get an American company up and going?

I did--  and with the $1,800 profit added in I was able to make it a total investment of $13,100 for the American company!   

Please tell me why making money for America is wrong .  If you don't know, at least tell me why foreign trade is so bad it would be better for Americans to starve and the US treasury to be bankrupt (remember the $600 in taxes) than for any American to have the freedom and liberty to contact the outside world.

154 posted on 01/31/2006 7:14:16 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: William Terrell
If the manufacturing capability is there and not here, where will we go to get a better price?

I guess competition is a difficult concept for you?

I care about what is good for America. Do you live in America?

Yes I do.

You said that my investment in a foreign country enriches that country. Then you said a foreign investment in America is bad for America. Can you see the conflict in your "logic"?

Tell me, why should America become dependent on world trade, instead of manufacturing in American and trading with each other?

You make it sound like we don't manufacture here or trade internally. You realize we manufacture and export more than ever?

155 posted on 01/31/2006 7:15:14 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: William Terrell
Sure, you made $1,800 to spend here, but you have improved a foreign economy with a viable business instead of America.

There you go again. Like so many protectionists, you only see one side of the equation. If you admit that American investment is good for a foreign business, then foreign investment is good for American business.

156 posted on 01/31/2006 7:17:59 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Wurlitzer
I guess you could make a case for this but only if you ignore the total cost of shipping jobs out of the country. Pay me now or pay me (via taxes) later.

I have seen many companies go down the tubes because they focused on price and not costs. They are very different things.

And if Dell is losing money because of poor or costly tech support, then they deserve to go down the tubes. I'm not going to lose any sleep on Dell's account. As a consumer I purchase the most product for my money. Doing anything else encourages and artificially supports companies that don't want to compete in the real market.

157 posted on 01/31/2006 7:23:32 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: The_Victor
" As a consumer I purchase the most product for my money"

As you should Victor. I no longer purchase Dell and not because of price but because of the poor, "English as a 2nd language service". That poor service increased my COST more than the original purchase price because of lost data and applications. Looking at the initial price tag is short sighted.

158 posted on 01/31/2006 7:29:29 AM PST by Wurlitzer (The difference between democrats and terrorists is the terrorists don't claim to support the troops)
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To: Wurlitzer
I no longer purchase Dell and not because of price but because of the poor, "English as a 2nd language service".

And that should be a consideration for anyone who is tech support dependent.

I did have an occasion to use Dells tech support, but I used the online chat version (no accents). I was reasonably pleased. My daughters machine started bombing to a blue screen two weeks before the warranty ran out. I did what the techs told me to try, but had to keep going back because the "fixes" didn't work. Once I convinced the tech support person that I had already exhausted their script, they started replacing parts. Long story short, my daughter's machine is completely new except for the case and power supply. The problem was the CPU (Intel's fault not Dell's). It took a week and cost Dell three trips to my house, but I don't think that would have been different if the tech support were in the US.

159 posted on 01/31/2006 7:38:58 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: toddlintown

How long do you think those GE employees will last. As I said before, Americans are there for only as long as India cannot do the job themselves.


160 posted on 01/31/2006 7:50:25 AM PST by CodeToad
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