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LIVE THREAD: Senate Democrats fake filibuster of Samuel Alito - C-span 2 10:00am EST
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Posted on 01/30/2006 5:57:36 AM PST by ken5050

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To: ken5050

Great title.. will be running out to ER soon on family matter but want to hit live stream when I get back if hearings still going on.. Will it be on CSPAN for sure..

thanks for thread..


101 posted on 01/30/2006 6:35:20 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: prairiebreeze

Bump.


102 posted on 01/30/2006 6:35:24 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (It is easy to call for a pi$$ing contest when you aren't going to be in the line of fire.)
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To: Cboldt

I think Chaffee will vote for Alito if he HAS to, same with Snowe. If they can get away with a no vote, they'll do it.


103 posted on 01/30/2006 6:35:28 AM PST by newnhdad
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To: traderrob6
Try this ... reverse Biden out (he won't filibuster, but he'll vote against cloture) and there are 64 anti-filibuster votes.

Gang-of-14 Positions Relating to Alito Filibuster

Caveat: I took an announced vote FOR the nominee to be a postition against filibuster. Seven of the fourteen have announced being FOR the nominee.

Of the remaining seven, five are against filibuster. That leaves a maximum of two Gang-of-14 Senators being willing to cast a vote for filibuster. None of them has expressed an intention to vote for the filibuster.

Cloture Motion Passes

The anti-filibuster vote is 61, by adding Chaffee, Landrieu, Pryor, Salazar and Snowe's anti-filibuster votes to the 56 AYE votes for the nominee.

In order to defeat the cloture motion, the DEMs have to "flip" more than one of the "anti-filibuster" Senators, plus insure that all anti-Alito votes outside of the Gang-of-14 will vote against cloture.

Akaka, Biden, Conrad and Dorgan have expressed that they will not support a filibuster, which would put the anti-filibuster vote up to 65.

Akaka said today [Jan 27] he wouldn't support a filibuster because the Senate has heard Alito's positions in confirmation hearings.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1565978/posts

However, two Dakotan Democrats -- Sen. Tim Johnson of South Dakota and Sen. Kent Conrad of North Dakota -- have said they would vote down a filibuster. Johnson said he'll vote for Alito, and Conrad said he's "leaning in favor" of the candidate.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01/27/alito/index.html

Senator Joseph Biden, a Delaware Democrat and member of the Judiciary Committee who voted against Judge Alito there, said he would not support a filibuster and doubted one would happen.

Sens. Daniel Akaka of Hawaii and Byron Dorgan of North Dakota made it clear Thursday night after a second day of floor debate on Alito that they would not support a filibuster, even though Akaka was going to vote against the nominee and Dorgan was still undecided.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1566155/posts


Daniel K. Inouye (D-HI) - NONCOMMITAL on filibuster - AGAINST the nominee

Joe Lieberman (D-CT) - NONCOMMITAL on filibuster - AGAINST the nominee
http://lieberman.senate.gov/newsroom/release.cfm?id=250808

Ken Salazar (D-CO) - Against filibuster - AGAINST the nominee
In a [Jan 25] conference call with reporters, Salazar said he still plans to vote against Alito's confirmation but indicated that his problems with the judge's philosophy do not extend to the extraordinary circumstances that would warrant a filibuster by the minority party.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1566524/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1565006/posts

Olympia Snowe (R-ME) - Against filibuster - Noncommital on the nominee
Her voicemail box (202.224.5344) is currently "full." LOL.
NY Times - January 13, 2006
By ADAM NAGOURNEY and NEIL A. LEWIS
After Alito's Testimony, Democrats Still Dislike Him but Can't Stop Him
... The chances of a Democratic filibuster faded after the third day of hearings, as a spokeswoman for Senator Olympia J. Snowe of Maine, a moderate Republican, announced that Ms. Snowe would oppose it.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1557208/posts?page=40#40

Lincoln Chaffee (R-RI) - Against Filibuster - Noncommital on the nominee.
Chafee has long signaled his worry that a filibuster against Alito would gridlock the Senate. Hourahan reaffirmed Thursday that the senator would join fellow Republicans in voting to shut off debate.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1566755/posts

Mary Landrieu (D-LA) - Against filibuster - Noncommital on the nominee.
"Because we have such a full plate of pressing issues before Congress, a filibuster at this time would be, in my view, very counterproductive. It is imperative that we remain focused on creating the tools New Orleans, Louisiana and the Gulf Coast will need to rebuild. This includes passing the Baker bill and allowing our state to keep its fair share of offshore energy revenues. We simply cannot afford to bring the Senate to a halt at a time when we need its action the most. If called to vote for cloture on Judge Alito's nomination, I will vote yes.

"I will continue to consult with constituents, groups, organizations and colleagues to decide on my final vote. I do think it is important that we have an up or down vote."
http://landrieu.senate.gov/scotus/alito2.cfm

Mark Pryor (D-AR) - Against filibuster - AGAINST the nominee
He added, without prompting, that he did not support a filibuster against Alito because "one is not warranted."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1566420/posts


E. Benjamin Nelson (D-NE) - Against filibuster - FOR the nominee
John McCain (R-AZ) - Against filibuster - FOR the nominee
Mike DeWine (R-OH) - Against filibuster - FOR the nominee
John Warner (R-VA) - Against filibuster - FOR the nominee
Robert Byrd (D-WV) - Against filibuster - FOR the nominee
Susan Collins (R-ME) - Against filibuster - FOR the nominee
Lindsey Graham (R-SC) - Against filibuster - FOR the nominee
104 posted on 01/30/2006 6:35:46 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: acsrp38
I think Kerry is simply letting Hillary know he is still a player in '08.

He wants to be viewed as the leader.

This is simply free press.
105 posted on 01/30/2006 6:35:56 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: prairiebreeze; All

BIDEN just joined up and now word is out that REED and LEAHY are for filibuster.


106 posted on 01/30/2006 6:36:02 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: ken5050
Biden now says he will vote against cloture "the first time?"..WTF..??

It's a mess. Me thinks much of this is to deny the President the PR of Associate Justice Alito being in the House Chamber during the SOTU message.

107 posted on 01/30/2006 6:37:26 AM PST by Fury
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To: mware

Is he still pretending to be objectively thinking it over? Corzine probably told him how to vote if he wanted the Senate appointment.


108 posted on 01/30/2006 6:37:31 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: Preachin'
Hillary/Obama Nation '08

Let The Desolation Begin

How's that for a bumper sticker?

109 posted on 01/30/2006 6:38:45 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness (The Culture of Corruption hurts. But it's the dems. Corruption of Culture that destroys.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

If I was (ugh) a Dem I'd filibuster and make the Republicans go nuclear. Keep the 'ball in play'... so to speak.


110 posted on 01/30/2006 6:38:50 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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To: ken5050
Biden now says he will vote against cloture "the first time?"..WTF..??

LOL. He's trying to argue there's a need for more debate. That is, given more time (i.e., intervening time to the next cloture vote), he'd vote in favor of a cloture motion. But the DEMs didn't use much time on Friday, none on Saturday, and could have had Sunday, if they wanted to debate.

In short, he's full of crap, and it's showing again.

111 posted on 01/30/2006 6:39:08 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: freeperfromnj
Is he still pretending to be objectively thinking it over? Corzine probably told him how to vote if he wanted the Senate appointment.

Corzine is too busy keeping the "culture of Democrat corruption" going on in New Jersey to bother anyone in DC.

112 posted on 01/30/2006 6:39:18 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: Semi Civil Servant
The George Soros Marionettes

Very big grin!

113 posted on 01/30/2006 6:39:28 AM PST by prairiebreeze (We are grateful to our fine military. God bless them and their families.)
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To: mewzilla
LOL. And I liked Limbaugh's new nickname for Kerry: John Filibuster Filibluster Kerry. There. That's better.
114 posted on 01/30/2006 6:39:37 AM PST by jslade (Liberalism ALWAYS accomplishes the exact opposite of it's stated intent!)
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To: areafiftyone

And $10 away from winning the election.....hey, wait.......


115 posted on 01/30/2006 6:40:02 AM PST by kimmie7 (As of January 23, I've been smoke free 11 MONTHS!)
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To: Cboldt

Pardon my ignorance but how can a person vote against cloture and yet "not support the filibuster"?


116 posted on 01/30/2006 6:40:04 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: Howlin; All

Here!!

Thanks for the Ping. I have to go to the dentist later, so I'll probably miss the, er, drama. Rats.

Save me some popcorn and champagne, please.


117 posted on 01/30/2006 6:40:47 AM PST by confederacy of dunces (Workin' & lurkin')
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To: LisaFab

source of that rumor?


118 posted on 01/30/2006 6:40:53 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

Cool!


119 posted on 01/30/2006 6:40:54 AM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: areafiftyone
In the event of a filliBUST, I look for the Dark Side to be closed to surfers. heh heh heh
120 posted on 01/30/2006 6:41:43 AM PST by kimmie7 (As of January 23, I've been smoke free 11 MONTHS!)
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