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1 posted on 01/29/2006 10:35:57 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To me, these are the defining issues of our times:

-Men(ace) in Black? SCOTUS goes Rogue...--

-Useless Eaters vs The Death Cult--

-Thunder on the Border-- (Minuteman Project)--

1- an unaccountable Judiciary.
2- whose life is it, anyway? Yours, or someone else's?
3- whose Country is it?

There are other vital issues, of course- but these three will determine just who we really are as a nation.

2 posted on 01/29/2006 10:38:20 AM PST by backhoe (A Nuke for every Kook- what Clinton "legacy...")
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To: NormsRevenge
Great editorial.
3 posted on 01/29/2006 10:46:40 AM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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"The fact that Oregon's law has survived the court challenge does not make physician-assisted suicide good public policy."

The Oregon suicide law was instituted by a referendum vote of Oregonians, then it survived another referendum vote challenging it a couple of years later.

It's sad to see people dragging down the noble profession of medicine like this.

4 posted on 01/29/2006 11:09:17 AM PST by nightdriver
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FYI.


5 posted on 01/29/2006 11:10:14 AM PST by little jeremiah
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"Assisted Suicides, Process is Subject to Abuse and Unnecessary."

Hey, I've been had. I thought this was a thread about the Hamas crazies. You ought to change the title.

6 posted on 01/29/2006 11:32:42 AM PST by trek
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8 posted on 01/29/2006 11:38:47 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: NormsRevenge
That's what got me. the woman at the Presser when SCOTUS announced it's decision. The one who yelled for joy, has been terminal for 6 YEARS. If I've still got 6+ years left, I don't want a DR to tell me I'm 'terminal'
9 posted on 01/29/2006 11:40:48 AM PST by digger48
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To: NormsRevenge

If they want to commit suicide can't we just pay them to be homicide bombers in the Middle east?


13 posted on 01/29/2006 12:07:34 PM PST by American Vet Repairman (Liberalism has killed more Americans than the Taliban)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Medicine" that kills you is legal, yet marijuana is illegal?

What am I missing here?

Inducing death is a legitimate medical use, but relieving chemo/radiation treatment induced illness isn't?

14 posted on 01/29/2006 12:09:48 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: NormsRevenge
Valid points. However, I think the medical "establishment" has done a very poor job with "end of life" issues. I've watched family members, in pain and dying and seen the palliative care not work. Or not work as good as it should. It's not a good process.

Bottom line is this is a family matter. It's between me and my God. Not me and the state, court or church. I'm sorry that some here feel it's a slippery slope, but my family and I don't want to suffer for thier fears. We claim our rights to death with dignity.

16 posted on 01/29/2006 12:23:55 PM PST by Wheee The People
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To: NormsRevenge
...and to improve palliative care, which is the relief of chronic pain. Medical experts assert that, with proper palliative care, no patient has to suffer terrible pain in the last days of life. That is why physician-assisted suicide is as unnecessary as it is ripe for abuse.

Most important paragraph in the whole article as far as I'm concerned. Used to be a patient, dying or not, could get effective pain relief. Enter the trial lawyers suing the crap out of doctors who were upholding their oath, on behalf of greedy a-holes who abused their medication and...VOILA!....doctors won't prescribe the needed pain meds for fear of ridiculous lawsuits.

JMHO

FMCDH(BITS)

17 posted on 01/29/2006 3:28:08 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: NormsRevenge

They don't have revolvers where these people come from? They don't have tall buildings? -- Jerry Seinfeld


18 posted on 01/29/2006 11:01:12 PM PST by jordan8
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