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Islam leads to Islam. Hamas winning the elections may not be as bad as we think. Now Hamas has to prove that it is civilized. Instead Hamas will show the world the true face of Islam and why not only the West needs to fear and defend against it, but that the rest of the world needs join in on the fight for survival as well.

What Pat, and the Islamists, need to realize is this: Iraq and Afghanistan are experiments in modernizing a brutal culture. We're trying to do it with the least loss of life among the native population, often resulting in sacrifice and loss of life of our own armed forces.

If, despite our best efforts, large areas of the Islamic world continue on a course of conflict and terror, converting their oil wealth into WMDs, the West is going to have no alternative. There is going to be large scale WWII style annihilation of Islamic cities and countries. Tens or hundreds of millions may die. When even France starts talking about using military force in the ME, this option cannot be far away.

BTW Pat, Bill Clinton tried your tactic of kissing up to Islamic terrorists for eight years. It resulted in bombings of New York, Washington DC, Bali, Lisbon, and London. We better hope the neoconveratives are right, because the only option left is very ugly.